Holmgren meets with Browns for 2d day

[pbmax]

I read an interesting article about why Holmgren failed as GM & coach in Seattle. The article stated that Holmgren refused to delegate authority on anything, he tried to control and decide everything, including the most insignificant things that even a GM-only would delegate to others. As a result, he simply couldn't do everything, and things become delayed, not completed thoroughly, or decided on too little input.

The article suggested that as he got older he changed even in his approach to coaching, and being "fired" as GM was a real awakening for him about his own limitations. He was willing to delegate more and more to his coordinators and assistant coaches. They felt his interest in being a GM was in roster development, player procurement; and that he would delegate much of the other stuff to people with other skills. In short, he would be more Wolf-like in his approach the next time around.

Any chance you got a link?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

The guy was a terrible GM and a highly overrated head coach. He thinks he's Bill Parcels...he's not!

I am with you on this one Sheep. Seattle started declining as soon as Thompson left. Poor drafting, poor FA acquisition and poor trading (a 1st for a NE WR whose name escapes me)

Everyone knows that Ruskell's key free agent signings were the reason the Seahawks made it to the Super Bowl, not Thompson's 25 year plan. Please keep your narratives straight. Success by Thompson is always accidental and the result of other forces.

If only we had gotten Canty and traded 3 of our draft picks for Peppers Maybe we would be 5-8.

[Patler]

I read an interesting article about why Holmgren failed as GM & coach in Seattle. The article stated that Holmgren refused to delegate authority on anything, he tried to control and decide everything, including the most insignificant things that even a GM-only would delegate to others. As a result, he simply couldn't do everything, and things become delayed, not completed thoroughly, or decided on too little input.

The article suggested that as he got older he changed even in his approach to coaching, and being "fired" as GM was a real awakening for him about his own limitations. He was willing to delegate more and more to his coordinators and assistant coaches. They felt his interest in being a GM was in roster development, player procurement; and that he would delegate much of the other stuff to people with other skills. In short, he would be more Wolf-like in his approach the next time around.

Any chance you got a link?

Not off hand, but I will look for it. It was a week or so ago, about the time Seattle opened up.

[Fritz]

So if I'm understanding all this correctly he doesn't really want to be a GM - he wants to be the president of a team, like Murphy with the Packers is?

To me, that would be boring. Revenue streams and all that crap. I think being GM would be much more interesting. Hours and hours and hours of film. Hours and hours and hours of meetings with scouts....and coaches. Hours and hours and hours with your chief negotiator.

Wait. I think I'd like to be the third string quarterback.

[pbmax]

So if I'm understanding all this correctly he doesn't really want to be a GM - he wants to be the president of a team, like Murphy with the Packers is?

To me, that would be boring. Revenue streams and all that crap. I think being GM would be much more interesting. Hours and hours and hours of film. Hours and hours and hours of meetings with scouts....and coaches. Hours and hours and hours with your chief negotiator.

Wait. I think I'd like to be the third string quarterback.

I think he wants to hire a GM like Parcells did, or at least two powerful personnel people (pro and college). Given that its Holmgren and that he is ambitious and confident, I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted a to get a foot in the door of administration as well.

[MJZiggy]

What for????? I mean...Cleveland?

What's wrong with Cleveland?

It's cold and he's retired. He could worm his way in at Tampa, or maybe get Jacksonville some attention--heaven knows they need it.

What happened to the coffee shop he and the missus were going to open?

[sheepshead]

I guess getting an earful from Bernie Kosar every Monday looked like more fun.

[cheesner]

I think being GM would be much more interesting. Hours and hours and hours of film. Hours and hours and hours of meetings with scouts....and coaches. Hours and hours and hours with your chief negotiator.

What?!?!?!? 30 mins per week on Packerrats and your good. Think of all the $ he can save on scouts.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Holmgren probably thinks he's going to be in charge of the Cleveland brownies distribution. He's just looking forward to all the free desserts.

[red]

looks like the browns have offered him a front office job paying between 8 and 10 million a year to do what parcells does

they say if he's hired, he'll bring in a gm and get rid of mangina, and maybe bring in a coach from his own tree

[pbmax]

What for????? I mean...Cleveland?

What's wrong with Cleveland?

It's cold and he's retired. He could worm his way in at Tampa, or maybe get Jacksonville some attention--heaven knows they need it.

What happened to the coffee shop he and the missus were going to open?

This assumes that he really wants to be retired. What he seems to want is another job outside of head coach.

[mraynrand]

looks like the browns have offered him a front office job paying between 8 and 10 million a year to do what parcells does

they say if he's hired, he'll bring in a gm and get rid of mangina, and maybe bring in a coach from his own tree

Ray Rhodes is not high on that list

[MJZiggy]

Poor Gary gets all the abuse...

[MichiganPackerFan]

What for????? I mean...Cleveland?

What's wrong with Cleveland?

Cleveland ROCKS!!!

[MichiganPackerFan]

I read an interesting article about why Holmgren failed as GM & coach in Seattle. The article stated that Holmgren refused to delegate authority on anything, he tried to control and decide everything, including the most insignificant things that even a GM-only would delegate to others. As a result, he simply couldn't do everything, and things become delayed, not completed thoroughly, or decided on too little input.

The article suggested that as he got older he changed even in his approach to coaching, and being "fired" as GM was a real awakening for him about his own limitations. He was willing to delegate more and more to his coordinators and assistant coaches. They felt his interest in being a GM was in roster development, player procurement; and that he would delegate much of the other stuff to people with other skills. In short, he would be more Wolf-like in his approach the next time around.

That's a hard thing to learn in management. Sometimes it takes more time to teach someone to do the job correctly than it does to simply do it yourself. However, if you invest the time into a person who can and will learn, it takes that pressure off in the long run.