Favre disses Chilly

[Noodle]

I'm not going to say Favre is a cancer -- as I recall, he did have some pretty good years here without the team falling apart.

But I agree with posters who are aghast at what comes out of his yap during press conferences. He has to know, as the son of a coach, that telling the press he gave Chilly the Heisman was not going to make Chilly look good.

I'm guessing ol' Irv would've chewed his ass like a bulldog on a milkbone.

[RashanGary]

This is what I used to think, but with Brett you get BS also.

Yeah. Brett will tell it like it is when it hurts other people (injury reports to make excuses for his bad play but hurt other people, behind door conversations to give him leverage in media battles and now this because he's pissed at Chilly and frustrated after a game).

When it's lies to help his cause in a media battle, Favre is all BS. When it's unfiltered truth about conversations that were private and personal, he'll spill the beans, "if it benefits him".

I knew Minny was a good team and had a chance, but I always hoped the type of lying, distrustfulness and selfishness that Brett and Chilly display would come back bite them. It's justice. Reading about Chilly blowing up, hearing Favre tell that story, all of it, it's what they signed up for when they weasled their way into getting Brett Favre, right down to the end of season adn big game collapses. I hope it ends the way it looks like it might, the way it always does with Brett Favre.

[Packers4Ever]

How shocking! This just confirmed what we all suspected all along = Favre is running the show in Minneapolis, just like he tried to do in GB until MM and TT told #4 to shut the hell up and just play QB.

Shocking ? I really don't think so. We've all known Brett Favre for nearing on 17 or 18 years now, his dad taught him the game of football.
It's in his blood, when did you ever see Brett hit the field and play in a "just another game" mood ? He wants to WIN the game and he'll do what it takes
to accomplish that.

It's not that they were behind by 2-3 TDs, it was 1 lousy point !!! In Green Bay he'd have lost games and then there'd have been hell to pay, far as the fans went, you'd all be bitching !!

Sorry but you were all content when Brett Favre was knocking himself out to win another game, I'd be curious to have seen one of those Vike yay-hoos take over the game the other day.

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[get louder at lambeau]

Favre has no history in MN, so what? Clearly he has enough of "something" to overrule his coach's decisions.

the Intangibles Strike Back.

[sharpe1027]

With Brett, you get real deal, no BS.

I used to believe that. Having been burned by him too many times, I no longer trust what he says unless I figure the truth suits his personal agenda.

He was full of BS when it came to whether or not he was thinking of un-retiring. Much of the Greta interview was another load of crap. His dealings with the Lions were shady at best. Supposedly he wasn't necessarily interested in going to the Vikings right up until he did so. I could go on.

[Packers4Ever]

I thought it was the latter - he was trying to protect Favre.

Agree - Chilly would be a fool to have pulled BF, only 1 pt. behind,

Who would have replaced him? Hmmm?

[Willard]

I thought it was the latter - he was trying to protect Favre.

Agree - Chilly would be a fool to have pulled BF, only 1 pt. behind,

Who would have replaced him? Hmmm?

I imagine the #2 QB would have replaced him if that is what the coach wanted. You see, it is the coach's decision. The coach gets to make foolish decisions if he wants. he is in charge. As I said before, I dont take issue with Favre being upset at the prospect of being pulled. He is a competitor, and he clearly feels he gives the team the best shot to win. That is part of his strength. My problem is he doesnt acjknowledge it is the coach's right to bench whoever the coach feels he needs to bench. Favre has serious boundary issues. He thought he should get to play the role of GM in GB, and now he doesnt think he needs to listen to the coach in Minnesota. His comments during the presser may have been "candid", but they undermined his coach, and created a distraction for his team. That is selfish. And I for one am delighted!

[mraynrand]

I thought it was the latter - he was trying to protect Favre.

Agree - Chilly would be a fool to have pulled BF, only 1 pt. behind,

Who would have replaced him? Hmmm?

I imagine the #2 QB would have replaced him if that is what the coach wanted. You see, it is the coach's decision. The coach gets to make foolish decisions if he wants. he is in charge. As I said before, I dont take issue with Favre being upset at the prospect of being pulled. He is a competitor, and he clearly feels he gives the team the best shot to win. That is part of his strength. My problem is he doesnt acjknowledge it is the coach's right to bench whoever the coach feels he needs to bench. Favre has serious boundary issues. He thought he should get to play the role of GM in GB, and now he doesnt think he needs to listen to the coach in Minnesota. His comments during the presser may have been "candid", but they undermined his coach, and created a distraction for his team. That is selfish. And I for one am delighted!

Good post: "The coach gets to make the decisions, or he isn't a coach, he is just a cheerleader." - Barry Switzer

[Scott Campbell]

I thought it was the latter - he was trying to protect Favre.

Agree - Chilly would be a fool to have pulled BF, only 1 pt. behind,

Who would have replaced him? Hmmm?

The guy the coach wanted playing.



The excuses people continue to make for this guy are hilarious.

[imscott72]

Wow! Leroy Butler totally lays Favre out with his comments..

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2009/12/leroy-butler-diva-brett-favre-is-running-the-vikings/1

LeRoy Butler: 'Diva' Brett Favre is 'running' the Vikings


Brett Favre's former teammate, said the QB's dustup on Sunday night with Vikings coach Brad Childress exposed what he said is the truth behind the Vikings: That Favre is calling the shots for the team.

"Everybody in Minnesota knows that Brett Favre is running that organization," LeRoy Butler, a Packers safety from 1990-2001, told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. "When the head coach leaves and goes and picks him up in his SUV, and brings him to the facility. Everyone knows who's running the Minnesota Vikings."

Favre said he had a "heated discussion" with Childress on Sunday when the coach tried to remove him from the game. Childress downplayed the severity of the disagreement, but said he was worried that Favre was being hit too much.

Cracks may be showing in the Childress-Favre relationship that blossomed when the coach recruited the QB out of retirement his summer. ESPN's Kevin Seifert categorized six stress points that have opened up between the two this season.

Butler said that Favre was wrong not to accede to Childress' wish to lift him from the game, but said the Vikings share blame because they knew what they were getting from him.

"Brett is a chip, Super Bowl or bust, all in," he told the Journal-Sentinel. "So you knew Brett was a diva, you knew Brett wanted it his own way, you knew this all along. It was just a matter of time before it happened."

Butler also said that other players on the Vikings surely have taken notice that Childress has lost control of Favre.

"If I'm Percy Harvin, and I have a question on a route or a play, I'm going right to Brett Favre," he told the paper. "If I'm Adrian Peterson and I'm not getting the carries I want, I don't go to Childress or (OC Darrell) Bevell, I go to Brett Favre. He's running the team. All this falls on Brett." -- Sean Leahy

[mraynrand]

"When the head coach leaves and goes and picks him up in his SUV, and brings him to the facility. Everyone knows who's running the Minnesota Vikings."



LOL

[Bossman641]

I thought it was the latter - he was trying to protect Favre.

Agree - Chilly would be a fool to have pulled BF, only 1 pt. behind,

Who would have replaced him? Hmmm?

The guy the coach wanted playing.



The excuses people continue to make for this guy are hilarious.

Don't you understand Scott? He's earned it. With all his heart and soul that he has poured into the Viking organization over the past 20 weeks, they owe him this.

[packers11]

pft.com

Report: Childress, Favre at odds over offense
Posted by Mike Florio on December 23, 2009 12:38 PM ET
We decided to take a 12-hour break from posting anything regarding the Childress-Favre feud because, really, there's nothing new to say about it.

But the 12 hours are up, and there's something new to say, courtesy of the network that will milk this cow until 24 hours after Monday night's game between Minnesota and Chicago has ended.

Ed Werder of ESPN has gotten inside the heads of Brad Childress and Brett Favre, and Werder reports that the tension arises from disagreement regarding the influence each man should have in the offense.

Werder, who cites multiple team sources in support of his report, claims that the talk regarding the possible removal of Favre from multiple games arises not from a desire to protect Favre, but from Favre's tendency to change the plays that have been called.

(Given the subtle pro-Favre tone of the report and Werder's history of interviewing Favre and lack of history specifically covering the Vikings, it's not a stretch to conclude that Favre is one of Werder's sources.)

Werder also reports that Favre resents that Childress "seldom" discusses the game plan with Favre, and that Childress rarely asks for Favre's input. And when Favre changes the play, Childress "bristles," even when the audible works.

By taking the situation public, Childress is now powerless to remove Favre under the guise of protecting him, or for any other reason. So Favre is running the show in Minnesota, and nothing Childress says or does can change it.

His best bet, then, would be to enjoy the fact that Favre's performance has removed Chilly from a very hot seat, resulting in a long-term extension. And while Brett is running the offense the way he sees fit, Childress can spend his free time trying to figure out how he'll regain the confidence and respect of the players who'll be on the team once Favre is gone.

[Scott Campbell]

So Favre put Chilly on a paid sabbatical?

[Patler]

Interesting, because:

- There were many articles when Sherman was in GB that Favre was extremely limited in being able to change plays. Sherman insisted that the play be run as called, even when the defense was set to stop it. Favre commented that he changed plays very seldom.

- Favre had more freedom under MM, and commented on it. MM never discussed it much, or complimented Favre about doing it.

- Some last year, but numerous times this year, MM has alluded to having a QB who can handle changes at the line very well. Rodgers seems to see the game the same as MM.

It seems maybe that Favre is more aggressive in the plays he changes to than coaches are comfortable with.