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  • #16
    The "tuck rule" is idiotic... and of course that should have been a fumble; however, by the way the rule is written, it had to be overturned - hence, I voted yes.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      Originally posted by pack4to84
      you said it didn't matter. But if the Packers had the ball at the Steelers 30. When Driver got his big catch it would have went for a TD instead of just 40 yards and a miss field goal.
      What? I'm not sure I need to point this out, but if we got the ball at the 26 yard line, we likely don't get the play to Driver. In the end, the call mattered little. Two minutes later, we had the ball 1st and 10 from the same spot on the field that we would have had it. Big deal. Bad calls are made. You'd have to be a homer to say this one affected the game much.
      I tend to agree that it could have made a difference. I don't care if they eventually got to the same point, they still had much further to go. Maybe they don't get the exact same play, but maybe they still exploit a similar weakness.

      You'd have to be clairvoyant to be so sure that it wouldn't have mattered at all.

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      • #18
        I don't think they should be allowed to review those plays...if the play looks like a pass to the naked eye, it's a pass...if the play doesn't look like a pass, it isn't.

        Trying to take it down to a frame-by-frame analysis is stupid IMO.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by sharpe1027
          I tend to agree that it could have made a difference. I don't care if they eventually got to the same point, they still had much further to go. Maybe they don't get the exact same play, but maybe they still exploit a similar weakness.

          You'd have to be clairvoyant to be so sure that it wouldn't have mattered at all.
          The way it turned out, the play mattered little. It was a bad call, but I'm not going to bitch about every bad call. They happen in every game. I'll save my bitching for plays like Jerry Rice's fumble. That call directly cost the Packers that playoff game.
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          • #20
            We lost the damn game. Nothing is going to change that.
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            • #21
              I think it should've stayed as called on the field.

              Replay is supposed to overturn the call if there is 'indisputable evidence' not 'if the ref had seen it in super slo-mo, how would he have called it.

              The way I read the replay rule, you're supposed to view the film biased towards the call on the field, and change it if it's obvious it was a BLOWN call, not if 'well, it looks more like....'
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              • #22
                Originally posted by The Leaper
                I don't think they should be allowed to review those plays...if the play looks like a pass to the naked eye, it's a pass...if the play doesn't look like a pass, it isn't.

                Trying to take it down to a frame-by-frame analysis is stupid IMO.
                especially when you can't challenge a 40 yard PI penalty.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mission
                  Didn't look anything like a pass in any way.

                  Hell, I say it shouldn't even matter IF the arm is going forward. If the ball falls straight down to the ground, it wasn't much of a pass. Rule it a fumble.

                  Shit's out of hand.
                  My dad and I were talking and we came to the conclusion that the ball should have to pass the line of scrimmage to be ruled incomplete. QB arm going forward but it hits 1 yard short of the line of scrimmage? Fumble. Certainly would clear up a lot of bull shit.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by channtheman
                    Originally posted by mission
                    Didn't look anything like a pass in any way.

                    Hell, I say it shouldn't even matter IF the arm is going forward. If the ball falls straight down to the ground, it wasn't much of a pass. Rule it a fumble.

                    Shit's out of hand.
                    My dad and I were talking and we came to the conclusion that the ball should have to pass the line of scrimmage to be ruled incomplete. QB arm going forward but it hits 1 yard short of the line of scrimmage? Fumble. Certainly would clear up a lot of bull shit.
                    Given the way they apply the rules, it should have been reversed. The initial call of fumble also makes sense, so you don't have the 'blown whistle' issues when it really is a fumble.

                    I like the idea that the ball has to travel significantly forward, although the LOS might be a bit too far. Perhaps the ball must go 2 yards forwards when hit to not be a fumble. What really really gets me is when they call incomplete because of the arm going forward when the ball lands behind the QB. That should always be a fumble / backwards lateral.
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