Better overall situation (Vikings or Packers)

[mngolf19]

From ESPN. Answers the question.

Funny!



If that wasn't a PG site, I am sure Chilly would be trying to please him in other ways.



Not even close, the Vikes have more key players who are in decline. Allen, Williams 1 and 2, are all declining. They have a few young stars, though. No tellilng if they can hit it big in the draft a few more times. Their biggest difficulty, though, is a future QB. I think having Brett around may have hurt their development.

The Packers only players who may decline are both CBs and Pickett. And we have good depth behind Pickett, not so much with the CBs. I have more confidence in TT bringing in some talent to fill these roles than I do for Minny finding talent.

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

[sharpe1027]

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

Packers based on one factor alone: Brad Childress.

[mraynrand]

Packers for sure, and after Favre leaves the Vikings they may be in worse shape than the Lions lol

like last year?

[mngolf19]

Ok, posting this so people can see starters and ages for Vikes and decide if they are old, young, whatever.

WR Berrian 29
WR Rice 23
QB Favre 40
WR Harvin 21
TE Shiancoe 29
RB Peterson 24
LT McKinnie 30
LG Hutchinson 32
C Sullivan 24
RG Herrera 29
RT Loadholt 23

LE Edwards 24
NT P Williams 37
UT K Williams 29
RE Allen 27
SLB Greenway 26
MLB Brinkley 24
WLB Leber 31
RCB Griffin 27
SS Johnson 24
LCB Winfield 32
FS Williams 28

[mngolf19]

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

Packers based on one factor alone: Brad Childress.

I will state again that I personally don't like Childress but compare him to MM? Stats only lean toward MM in head to head 5-3 and getting to NCC which could change this year. Or not. Chilly has trended up since he arrived. Any other opinions are not fact based.

[sharpe1027]

I will state again that I personally don't like Childress but compare him to MM? Stats only lean toward MM in head to head 5-3 and getting to NCC which could change this year. Or not. Chilly has trended up since he arrived. Any other opinions are not fact based.

This is a fact:

[mngolf19]

Had a good image to post but, do not know how.

[AtlPackFan]

I really don't think it's that close for brighter future.

We have a massive advantage at QB for the next 5-10 yrs.

Our defense is young and playing great. MN D is fading from their glory days of recent years. It will be even worse if EJ Henderson can't come back.

We are old at the corners and at tackle. Not sure how/if Harris returns and how many years Woodson has left...although at the level he is playing now you hope at least a few more. But there doesn't appear to be much behind these 2 and Tramon. Need to find a left tackle...Cliffy is about done. Maybe Lang is the answer at right???

[SkinBasket]

Had a good image to post but, do not know how.

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[ThunderDan]

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

Packers based on one factor alone: Brad Childress.

I will state again that I personally don't like Childress but compare him to MM? Stats only lean toward MM in head to head 5-3 and getting to NCC which could change this year. Or not. Chilly has trended up since he arrived. Any other opinions are not fact based.

Of course you could count playoff records!! Or the last time the teams were in the NFC championship game!!

[The Leaper]

Packers obviously are in far better shape if you are looking long term...mostly due to the QB position. Rodgers will be a top 5 QB in this league for the next 10 years, while Favre probably has only one more year left in the tank.

Both teams have some very strong young offensive stars...but I think Green Bay has far more strong young defensive stars. Over time, I think that will play out to Green Bay's advantage.

[mngolf19]

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

Packers based on one factor alone: Brad Childress.

I will state again that I personally don't like Childress but compare him to MM? Stats only lean toward MM in head to head 5-3 and getting to NCC which could change this year. Or not. Chilly has trended up since he arrived. Any other opinions are not fact based.

Of course you could count playoff records!! Or the last time the teams were in the NFC championship game!!

I did.

[ThunderDan]

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

Packers based on one factor alone: Brad Childress.

I will state again that I personally don't like Childress but compare him to MM? Stats only lean toward MM in head to head 5-3 and getting to NCC which could change this year. Or not. Chilly has trended up since he arrived. Any other opinions are not fact based.

Of course you could count playoff records!! Or the last time the teams were in the NFC championship game!!

I did.

Misread your post.

Still, as has been beat in to peoples heads if you don't win the Superbowl the whole year is a waste.

Under that scenario MM and Chilly are equal.

[LEWCWA]

The Pack looks to be the team to beat the next few years. MN is staring down the gun of mediocre. QB will be a ?, their Williams wall is getting older, OL looks bad, EJ will probably never be the same(not saying much since this was his only good year). Pack has a great young front 7, and well Woodson is the only codger in the backfield....Pack has 4 recievers that would start for MN. The only place they beat us is with AP as far as I can tell. Oh wait, they may have a better punter than we do!

[cheesner]

PSSTTT... Both Ts on the Pack!

Although I think we have 1 guy who can become a tackle and maybe another, I don't think the drop off will be extreme next season. But you are right. I should have included that.

Jared Allen is 27. And K. Williams is 29. P. Williams plays less than 33% of the plays. And Favre hurt the development of Jackson?

I was thinking Allen was much older. Thanks for the correction.