Better overall situation (Vikings or Packers)

[3irty1]

The Vikings have more positions filled longer term than the Pack but not the most important one. Their window closes with Favre's next retirement and won't open again until his next unretirement, or another major move for a QB.

Although I personally don't think much of Berrian, with Driver gone the Vikings WR corps will probably be better long term. Their O-Line is certainly more solid although the only piece I'm really jealous of is Hutchinson who's a one-man running game.

Defensively both teams are about the same long term. Lots of young talent with a few old pro-bowlers.

[Smidgeon]

The Vikings have more positions filled longer term than the Pack but not the most important one. Their window closes with Favre's next retirement and won't open again until his next unretirement, or another major move for a QB.

Although I personally don't think much of Berrian, with Driver gone the Vikings WR corps will probably be better long term. Their O-Line is certainly more solid although the only piece I'm really jealous of is Hutchinson who's a one-man running game.

Defensively both teams are about the same long term. Lots of young talent with a few old pro-bowlers.

I'll take the GB offense long term over the Vikes. I think Jordy will be a good #2, Finley's young and the Vike's only young position where they're far and away the best is RB. And RBs have a short shelf life. So I'll take the young QB, TE, and WR without hesitation.

[mission]

I really hope we never have Jordy as a #2 receiver.

He is what is he. Lacks the quick-burst explosiveness. I like the guy, really do, but him as a #2 just reminds me of the WRs we had in the 90s with Favre. Just not enough.

[Smidgeon]

I really hope we never have Jordy as a #2 receiver.

He is what is he. Lacks the quick-burst explosiveness. I like the guy, really do, but him as a #2 just reminds me of the WRs we had in the 90s with Favre. Just not enough.

I don't know about that. He was extremely effective in college. I think he's a good route runner with great top end speed. No, he'll never be flashy, but he's definitely a cut above the Bill Schroeders of the world.

[Lurker64]

I think the Packers are clearly in the better position going forward for the simple reason that in a year, or two, the Vikings will be looking for a starting QB again. The old man has done well for them this year, but either in this offseason or the next when he retires for good or goes looking for greener pastures, they'll be right back where they started this year, before Chilly picked up the old man at the airport. Jackson and Ferotte could be adequate starters if they could become more consistent, reduce correctable mistakes, and the Vikings Offense could return to what it was two years ago (e.g. A mauling run team). But there's a lot of ifs in that situation, and it looks to me that the Vikings will be looking for their QB of the future in this draft or the next and they won't be in position to grab one of the guys who doesn't have a lot of question marks about his professional potential, unless they sell the farm to move up a lot to grab a Clausen or a Locker.

These teams are close enough in overall talent that it really comes down to the fact that one team is confident that if everything goes well, they have their starting QB who will be playing at a high level for the next decade while the other team in question knows for a fact that their current starting QB will not be playing at a high level for the next decade, and the guys beneath him on the depth chart are a big downgrade.

One thing I'm interested in is that the Vikings offense has become so pass-centric this year, how much of a step back does it take when the Old Man heads off to wherever he goes when he's done with a team?

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Vikings have more positions filled longer term than the Pack but not the most important one. Their window closes with Favre's next retirement and won't open again until his next unretirement, or another major move for a QB.

Although I personally don't think much of Berrian, with Driver gone the Vikings WR corps will probably be better long term. Their O-Line is certainly more solid although the only piece I'm really jealous of is Hutchinson who's a one-man running game.

Defensively both teams are about the same long term. Lots of young talent with a few old pro-bowlers.

Many scouts believe Hutchinson's play has dropped off considerably this year, and he's getting old. McKinnie is solid but overrated. Loadholdt has been good for a rookie, but not a world beater. Herrera is average. I don't know what they have in Sullivan. Their OL generally is vastly overrated. Well, it was until the last couple of weeks.

[mngolf19]

I think the Packers are clearly in the better position going forward for the simple reason that in a year, or two, the Vikings will be looking for a starting QB again. The old man has done well for them this year, but either in this offseason or the next when he retires for good or goes looking for greener pastures, they'll be right back where they started this year, before Chilly picked up the old man at the airport. Jackson and Ferotte could be adequate starters if they could become more consistent, reduce correctable mistakes, and the Vikings Offense could return to what it was two years ago (e.g. A mauling run team). But there's a lot of ifs in that situation, and it looks to me that the Vikings will be looking for their QB of the future in this draft or the next and they won't be in position to grab one of the guys who doesn't have a lot of question marks about his professional potential, unless they sell the farm to move up a lot to grab a Clausen or a Locker.

These teams are close enough in overall talent that it really comes down to the fact that one team is confident that if everything goes well, they have their starting QB who will be playing at a high level for the next decade while the other team in question knows for a fact that their current starting QB will not be playing at a high level for the next decade, and the guys beneath him on the depth chart are a big downgrade.

One thing I'm interested in is that the Vikings offense has become so pass-centric this year, how much of a step back does it take when the Old Man heads off to wherever he goes when he's done with a team?

Probably do what you mentioned, they will change the offense again to match the QB they have(whoever that is). I expect them to draft one again this year and then cut bait with Jackson unless he has improved in some way that isn't visible due to lack of playing time.

To me, if anyone thinks either of these teams is going to run away with the division year after year, they're smoking something. I expect very close and back and forth for the next 6-8 years. Now CBA change or MN not coming through with a stadium could very well change that.

[LEWCWA]

.Pack has 4 recievers that would start for MN. The only place they beat us is with AP as far as I can tell. Oh wait, they may have a better punter than we do!

Strongly disagree

Their #3 WR is probably more talented than our #3 or #4.

Sydney Rice is close to Jennings; could argue either way
Bernard Berrion is close to Driver
Harvin is as good or better then Jones or Nelson

I understand what your saying about Harvin, but he is what he is. They are using him perfectly. He is a great playmaking slot type reciever. If he had to lineup in a bunch of 2 rec. sets as the #2 he wouldn't be nearly as productive, thus my statement. I believe all 4 of our rec. would start for them....over BB.