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  • #16
    Re: Pro Bowl Predictions

    Originally posted by mngolf19
    But I keep hearing, and somehwat agree, that the Pack have the most fans around. So why wouldn't that have worked out over the years? Certainly more than the Vikes.
    I don't know how to answer that one. It could be for a variety of reasons. Maybe there are more GB fans, but they aren't as tenacious as Philly's or Dallas's fans. Maybe GB fans are so used to success that they don't overreact when their team is having an outstanding season (like Dallas two years ago and the Vikings this year). Maybe it's because GB is a small market team. I don't know the reason, but even the best teams don't deserve to have 10-13 players in the probowl.

    At last count, two weeks ago, the Vikings led the NFC in 11 of the 19 positions and led the NFL in 7 of 19 positions. That isn't calculated voting based on who a fan thinks is the best player at a position. That's blind adulation for a fan's favorite team.

    EDIT: And I would say the same thing if that many Packers got in. I think only the worthy should get in, and I for one can still enjoy it when a Packer gets voted in because the fanbase isn't swarming the ballot box. When a Packer gets in, I can take fan pride in that fact that he gets in because others around the country thinks he's worth it and not just the Green Bay fans.
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    • #17
      Re: Pro Bowl Predictions

      Originally posted by Smidgeon
      My predictions:

      Aaron Rodgers
      Charles Woodson
      Nick Collins
      Nailed it.

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      • #18
        Re: Pro Bowl Predictions

        Originally posted by BallHawk
        Originally posted by Smidgeon
        My predictions:

        Aaron Rodgers
        Charles Woodson
        Nick Collins
        Nailed it.

        http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=...s&confirm=true
        Awesome! I was afraid they'd put Warner in there based on reputation or something even though Rodgers is clearly more deserving. Good for him! Collins wasn't getting as much pub as he did last year (probably because he didn't have the TDs he had last year) but he deserved it too..Everyone knew Woodson would go...Everyone on this team who deserved to go got voted in, IMO. And that doesn't happen often.

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        • #19
          cushing, orakpo, and byrd...three rookies getting love over my boy matthews

          would be odd if matthews gets def ROY yet misses pro bowl and his 3 competitors make pro bowl.
          "In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey."

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          • #20
            guess we won't be watching Rodgers / Woodson / and Collins in the probowl this year

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            • #21
              Originally posted by packers11
              guess we won't be watching Rodgers / Woodson / and Collins in the probowl this year
              i see what you did there
              I am better looking than you.

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              • #22
                Wow, McKinnie and Peters are the starting OTs for the NFC? Is there just a lack of good OTs in the NFC, or did the voters screw up?
                </delurk>

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                • #23
                  Apparently the Packer Pro Bowl alternates are: Clay Matthews, Chad Clifton, Ryan Grant and A.J. Hawk.
                  </delurk>

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                  • #24
                    Re: Pro Bowl Predictions

                    Originally posted by Smidgeon
                    Pro Bowl voting results and rosters are released today. Of the Packers team, who do you think is on the roster and who isn't because of overzealous Viking fans stuffing the ballot box but deserves to be?

                    My predictions:

                    Aaron Rodgers
                    Charles Woodson
                    Nick Collins

                    Deserves to be but won't make it:

                    Ryan Grant
                    Johnny Jolly
                    Clay Matthews


                    Just got home from work and honestly have not looked to see who made it yet. Regarding your list, I don't think Grant deserves to be in. I do think Rodgers, Woodsen, and Collins deserve it...but have a feeling Rodgers gets snubbed. May end up playing there after some of the vets decline. Jolly has been solid but not sure he's Pro Bowl Calibur yet. Harris was having another season worth consideration until he got hurt. I'd have to look at Matthews stats vs the others to say he's worth considering; I think he's there calibur wise and I do think he'll be there in the future...should be the ROY backup behind Cushing.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Lurker64
                      Apparently the Packer Pro Bowl alternates are: Clay Matthews, Chad Clifton, Ryan Grant and A.J. Hawk.
                      Nice, good for those guys! Kinda feel Clay got snubbed a bit, but he's a rookie and if we're lucky, we end up with a 12 year fan-favorite pro bowler (genes duh!).

                      It's 'feel good' for AJ Hawk though. I don't care what you've said, there shouldn't be a Packer fan not happy to see Hawk get legit PB consideration.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by packer4life
                        cushing, orakpo, and byrd...three rookies getting love over my boy matthews

                        would be odd if matthews gets def ROY yet misses pro bowl and his 3 competitors make pro bowl.

                        I think Matthews is better than Orakpo. Cushing is very deserving of ROY though
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • #27
                          Good for Darren Sharper as well
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #28
                            Re: Pro Bowl Predictions

                            Originally posted by BallHawk
                            Originally posted by Smidgeon
                            My predictions:

                            Aaron Rodgers
                            Charles Woodson
                            Nick Collins
                            Nailed it.

                            http://www.nfl.com/probowl/story?id=...s&confirm=true
                            Sweet!
                            No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                            • #29
                              So anyone know why Hawk made alternate instead of Barnett? (Is that a stupid question?)
                              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                              • #30
                                The OL are sometimes laughable. McKinnie is solid, but has been overrated most of his career. I've heard that Hutchinson has dropped off this year, but a lot of OL hang onto the Pro Bowl votes at the end of their careers on name only. I can't really argue with any of the other Packer or Viking selections. We have some guys that are playing near Pro Bowl level though--Grant, Sitton, Jennings, Finley, Jenkins, Barnett, Matthews.

                                Kind of head scratching that Orakpo makes it over Matthews.

                                Orakpo
                                Team Record: 4-11
                                Defensive Ranks: Points allowed: 16th, Yards allowed: 11th
                                48 tackles, 11 sacks, 4 stuffs, 1 forc. fumble, 0 fum. rec., 2 PDs

                                Matthews
                                Team Record: 10-5
                                Defensive Ranks: Points allowed: 9th, Yards allowed: 2nd
                                50 tackles, 10 sacks, 8 stuffs, 1 forc. fum., 3 fum. rec., 5 PDs

                                Carucci had Matthews in and Orakpo out.

                                It wasn't hard to identify the top three quarterbacks in each conference this season, but filling out the rest of the AFC and NFC Pro Bowl rosters required further examination.
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