Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
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(Bigby seems to be making more plays as the season is ending. Are you seeing something different with him?)
Yeah, I think Atari Bigby is playing at a very high level. He's going to receive another game ball this week and I think that is three in a row. He's playing outstanding. He has always been a very good communicator. He has done a very good job of being the last line of defense back there, and now that he has been given some opportunities, he's definitely cashed in on them. I think Atari's confidence is as high as I have seen it. He has battled through a couple of injuries and now he has been able to put a full season together. He has a lot of confidence in this new scheme, and he is playing at a very high level for us.
(Were injuries bugging him earlier in the season?)
Yeah, definitely. He missed a couple of games. I think he had a little bit of almost "here we go again" because he had the back-to-back injuries that happened very early in the season. Yeah, I think that definitely affected him a little bit, but he is such an upbeat personality. He brings a lot to the table as far as the way he fits into the group. They really trust him. He's an excellent communicator. It's just really part of the growth of the whole defense. Nick Collins has put together a Pro Bowl season back there, so I really like our safety play. It has really picked up and it is a big part of our defense. They are the key communicators in our defense, and you're just seeing a defense growing and getting better and better each week.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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+1Originally posted by JoemailmanBigby and Hawk don't get a lot of love from Packer fans, but I think they're kind of the glue that holds this defense together. You can't have 11 guys running around doing what Woodson and Matthews do. Some guys have to assume more of a support role. Bigby is one of those guys. Remember all the screwups in the secondary when Marquand Manuel was here? You don't see that with Bigby in there. He may some physical limitations, but he does a great job of making sure everyone is on the same page.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Wow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
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People forget that Bigby was hurt a lot, when he's healthy, he can lay the wood to opposing players with the best of them. If he's lousy, how did the Packers make the playoffs? Earlier this season, many fans wanted to get rid of Scott Wells too, after Spitz went down, Wells stepped in and did a great job. Another unsung hero.Thanks Ted!
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I changed my mind. The Pack doesn't need to replace Bigby with a draft pick or anything. Don't get me wrong--I think he's the good kind of serviceable. Nothing special though. But the Pack already has his replacement on the roster: Charles Woodson when he loses too much of a step to keep up on the outside. Move him to SS and don't let him miss a beat.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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Ridiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
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One thing going for Bigby is that he is as cute as a bug's ear.Originally posted by ZorroRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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What the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.Originally posted by AdministratorRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
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No, what he was saying is that every player on every team has someone that hates them and is vocal about it. Even Emmitt Smith had people who ragged on him. It happens on every team.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWhat the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.Originally posted by AdministratorRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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You mean before his second "career" with ESPN?Originally posted by ThunderDanNo, what he was saying is that every player on every team has someone that hates them and is vocal about it. Even Emmitt Smith had people who ragged on him. It happens on every team.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWhat the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.Originally posted by AdministratorRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
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Does someone keep stats on gameballs now? Because obviously it's the best measure of how talented a player is. Just like being glue. The master of intangibles and unsubstantial correlative results!Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWhat the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.
If pumping a metric ton of sunshine into Atari's anus each week to keep his confidence up is what it takes to keep him from making mistakes out there, I'm all for it though."You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
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That would be everybody ragging on him.Originally posted by hoosierYou mean before his second "career" with ESPN?Originally posted by ThunderDanNo, what he was saying is that every player on every team has someone that hates them and is vocal about it. Even Emmitt Smith had people who ragged on him. It happens on every team.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWhat the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.Originally posted by AdministratorRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWow. The guy gets three consecutive game balls from the HC, and has 3 INTs in the last two games. Look at the amazing fan reaction players can expect if they come to GB. One more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.Originally posted by Lurker64Definitely "Safety" ought to be on our draft wish list. Not that Bigby isn't at least a moderately adequate player when surrounded by talent, but the fact that everybody lower on the depth chart is actually worse than Bigby means that we might want to draft two safeties.
But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.
-Tim Harmston
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Originally posted by get louder at lambeauWhat the fuck are you talking about? I'm talking about retarded and unwarranted negative fan reaction to a player who has been playing well enough to get a game ball for three consecutive weeks. You seem to think I was saying something else completely.Originally posted by AdministratorRidiculous. Every football player faces this, it is not unique to GB. You play until someone outplays you, with very few exceptions. It's just the way it is and should have no bearing on players coming here or anywhere.
This is what I was talking about. No player should be making decisions from this perspective, and GB has "no unique" fan reaction from any other city. I really don't understand the attitude that you gave me. No reasons for that.
Originally posted by get louder at lambeauOne more reason NOT to go to GB if you're a FA.
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