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  • #1

    Fire Capers

    As you all know, I have long been an advocate of the 3-4 and hailed the transition triumphantly...

    Capers is a dilemma though, b/c he is an good coach, an experienced coach, and the kind of coach you want on staff to implement a scheme change.

    On the flip side of that is the concern that he is not a great game-day coach, game planner, or play caller.

    Everyone on here will tout our high defensive ranking... but that is not an accurate measure of what this defense is. Without doing any research - how many of our games came against abysmal offenses??? Detroit twice, Cleveland, SF, TB, STL, SEA - Chicago when they weren't going well...

    That's half our games against very, very sub standard offenses...

    That said, they did show glimpses, and Capers did occassionally show some aggression... however, therein lies my probelem with Capers - his nature, and his track record.

    His overall nature is timidity and a reluctance to make adjustments. If his initial game plan is crap... the game is crap. It's as if he can't see it... "why isn't this working??? it worked on paper last week in the film room???" lol...

    Capers is a good coach... but unless he has a HC that is willing to over rule him, i.e. he will go down with the ship that brung him... I have serious resevations as to whether we can win anything with him at the defensive helm.

    He is one of those guys that can maybe get you close, but never get you over the top (last year in Pitt the exception - however, I have a strong feeling that has more to do with Mike Tomlin than Dom Capers)... it was my primary concern when we hired him - and now, after giving up 51 pts in a playoff game???

    Well, that's just inexcusable... but more than that - if I'm Arizona, I'm wondering, "how did we not score 80???"

    For Arizona, to have even had to punt once, against that defensive game plan??? That's embarrassing...

    As I said, I don't blame even the 1st player... the players never had a chance b/c Capers never gave them a chance. Terrible game plan, terrible play calling, no adjustments... that is the Capers I have always known - a leopard doesn't change his spots.

    That was a bad game plan, bad execution, and bad play calling... all of that is on Capers. TT has to pull the trigger, and send Capers packing.
    wist
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  • #2
    you don't fire on one bad game.... he was successful overall, but not when it counts...

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    • #3
      keep the 3-4, keep the staff, promote someone

      thanks capers for the "consulting" during our transition.

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      • #4
        How many injuries did we have on defense?

        Also do you remember our defense from last season?

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        • #5
          This is a post out of emotion....you don't fire Dom after his first year..especially when our D was in the top 2 or 3 most of the year. We need a better group of players in the secondary.

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          • #6
            The fact that you aren't even willing to blame any of the players completely illegitimizes your argument. At the end of the day, there were coverages blown, tackles missed, bad reads, etc. That's on the players.
            "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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            • #7
              Capers does seem to cave during pressure situations
              Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by b bulldog
                Capers does seem to cave during pressure situations
                Home game against Dallas. Team was 4-4 and the season was basically riding on that game....Basically pitches a shutout.
                "I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael Finley

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                • #9
                  Dallas tries to run the ball, that was our D's strength unlike the Steelers, Vikings, and Cards.
                  Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                  • #10
                    This is a ridiculous thread. When they pressured Warner early they didn't get home. When they sat in coverage they got burned.

                    Coaching can only take you so far. At some point players have to make plays. Four and five man rushes were extremely ineffective today. Had they been, which has nothing to do with coaching, it would have been a much different game.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brando19
                      This is a post out of emotion....you don't fire Dom after his first year..especially when our D was in the top 2 or 3 most of the year. We need a better group of players in the secondary.
                      No it's not Capers has been around since... well, since I started studying Buddy Ryans 46 defense

                      As I said... I know a lot of you guys will site "stats"; but those can be illusory.

                      Capers does have a history, and I've never liked it... even though I acknowledge he is a very good, and very knowledgable coach.

                      In some ways it comes down to a persons nature... When his back is against the wall, he is timid - go back and watch the 1996 NFC Championship game - thank God, the opposing HC/DC was Dom Capers... he put us in the SB

                      I said earlier this week... we would know very quickly if we were to win this game or not based solely on defensive game plan.

                      It is a testiment to luck, Neil Rackers, and maybe even to M3 and the offense in general that they were able to make it close - b/c from a standpoint of defensive prowess??? We didn't have a chance.

                      Today, the defense of the Green Bay Packers was an embarrassement... and that falls on Dom Capers.

                      For those of you who are younger... perhaps you don't know Dom; but, I know Dom, and nothing I saw today suprised me.

                      Go back and watch the 1996 NFC Championship game...

                      We easily won that game on our way to our only Championship in the past 40+ years - even though I think we were destined to win that Championship b/c we had a great team - but facing a timid/simplicitic defensive scheme like what Dom Capers trotted out there for the Carolina Panthers... well that certainly made things easier

                      No... as I said, I think Dom is a good coach, but in the end, he will get you beat in big games. Pitt beating Arizona in last years SB was more a "fluke" on his resume than anything else...
                      wist

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ICU81MI
                        This is a ridiculous thread. When they pressured Warner early they didn't get home. When they sat in coverage they got burned.

                        Coaching can only take you so far. At some point players have to make plays. Four and five man rushes were extremely ineffective today. Had they been, which has nothing to do with coaching, it would have been a much different game.
                        What he said.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          wist your threads and the game thread has been ridiculous today. At some point players have to play. Not much that coaching can do when players are outmanned.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ICU81MI
                            wist your threads and the game thread has been ridiculous today. At some point players have to play. Not much that coaching can do when players are outmanned.
                            Agreed...Capers had a shitty secondary to play with today. No argument there.

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                            • #15
                              Vanilla Bob's firing last year was warranted. It would be foolish to turn around and fire Capers now, after what he's done with this defense in one year.

                              Crazy idea. It's that 'let's fire someone every time we lose' theory of fandom.
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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