Fire Capers

[wist43]

Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!

[Smidgeon]

Personally, I'm not sure that any defense could have stopped Warner the way he was playing. His throws were coming out fast and on target. Blitzing him wasn't doing anything, and sending the farm would have only given him more lanes. The best Capers could do is sit back and hope to close up the lanes. It didn't work, but I put that more on the inexperience of the defense against top tier QBs than against Capers' scheme.

[wist43]

Personally, I'm not sure that any defense could have stopped Warner the way he was playing. His throws were coming out fast and on target. Blitzing him wasn't doing anything, and sending the farm would have only given him more lanes. The best Capers could do is sit back and hope to close up the lanes. It didn't work, but I put that more on the inexperience of the defense against top tier QBs than against Capers' scheme.

That's the point...

Capers gave receivers free releases the whole game... Breaston would line up in the slot, run 12 yds untouched, and be wide open by 5 yds - easy pitch and catch.

Can't give receivers free releases like that... as I said last week, if Capers comes out with the game plan he did, it would allow Warner to get into a rhythm, and we'd end up in a track meet - that's exactly what happened.

[mraynrand]

What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

Yes, that's what we think. The Packer D played great. Capers did a great job.

[Bossman641]

Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!

Are you even reading the responses you are getting?

[Administrator]

Capers blew it yesterday, but you can't hang all of the points on him. There were two Turnovers deep in packer territory to start the game. Giving up one of the two touchdowns surely isn't on the defense. The last touchdown, in overtime, the defense wasn't even on the field.

Did the defense give up 51? No. But they gave up enough that it is clear that they didn't have a good day.

Don't think you fire the coach for one bad day, even in a critical situation. But it probably makes you question him a little bit.

If we're firing coaches, lets start with the offensive line coach.

[mraynrand]

The Packers got schooled. They got beat like a drum. Capers got outcoached and exposed. The Packers struggled to generate any pressure up the gut, they got outscheme having LBs covering WRs, they got outschemed getting small DBs getting run on, they got exposed for having a weak left side against the run, they got exposed for lack of depth in the secondary, and they got exposed for inexperience throughout the defense. There were some extenuating circumstances (turnovers, push offs), but every last deficiency on the defense got exposed and Warner had a hot hand. The Packer improved overall in 2009, but the switch to the 3-4 and injuries resulted in 4 rookies and some weak journeymen being on the field yesterday. If Thompson can repeat this past offseason for next year, I expect the defense to continue to improve. Too bad he didn't trade Kampman right away when they made the switch to the 3-4. That was the bold personnel move that might have made all the difference for this year.

[Administrator]

mraynrand, I see your point, just to add that they didn't really have an OLB to plug in for Kampman. Failing a trade or FA acquisition, they thought they needed him. Who'd have thought that Brad Joes would have stepped up and had the year he did?

clearly now, in this defense Kampman is expendable and should be traded. Last offseason? He was expendable, but it wasn't that clear.

Otherwise, I'm on your bandwagon. defense didn't give up 51, but they had an awful day.

Skinbasket made me laugh with his comment about the "vacant" sign in the middle of the defense. He's right. It was open all day, and Breaston ran through it doing his best impersonation of Jerry Rice. Breaston is certainly not Jerry Rice. sickening.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though Travon William played pretty well.

At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!

[pbmax]

The Packers got schooled. They got beat like a drum. Capers got outcoached and exposed. The Packers struggled to generate any pressure up the gut, they got outscheme having LBs covering WRs, they got outschemed getting small DBs getting run on, they got exposed for having a weak left side against the run, they got exposed for lack of depth in the secondary, and they got exposed for inexperience throughout the defense. There were some extenuating circumstances (turnovers, push offs), but every last deficiency on the defense got exposed and Warner had a hot hand. The Packer improved overall in 2009, but the switch to the 3-4 and injuries resulted in 4 rookies and some weak journeymen being on the field yesterday. If Thompson can repeat this past offseason for next year, I expect the defense to continue to improve. Too bad he didn't trade Kampman right away when they made the switch to the 3-4. That was the bold personnel move that might have made all the difference for this year.

Considering the lack of pass rush, at least Kampman would have offered more to the run defense on the left side of the D. Jones was being manhandled by a TE (Becht).

[pbmax]

Capers got dealt a bad hand in the secondary.

Bush is worse than Will Blackmon & Patrick Lee. And losing Harris obviously hurt depth, even though though Travon William.

At safety, fans were happy to see Rouse get the axe, but he is a lot better than Giordino. Rouse played well as a starter for the Giants this year, and the other guy that Thompson cut, Anthony Smith, ended up starting for Jacksonville.

I say blame God for the injuries and, as always, FIRE TED THOMPSON!

Did you see the Giants play defense with him as a starter?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I saw Rouse make some hard tackles. I actually don't know if he sucked or not, but stop ruining my story.

Do you think the Giants would have used Giordino as a starter for the season?

[mraynrand]

The Packers got schooled. They got beat like a drum. Capers got outcoached and exposed. The Packers struggled to generate any pressure up the gut, they got outscheme having LBs covering WRs, they got outschemed getting small DBs getting run on, they got exposed for having a weak left side against the run, they got exposed for lack of depth in the secondary, and they got exposed for inexperience throughout the defense. There were some extenuating circumstances (turnovers, push offs), but every last deficiency on the defense got exposed and Warner had a hot hand. The Packer improved overall in 2009, but the switch to the 3-4 and injuries resulted in 4 rookies and some weak journeymen being on the field yesterday. If Thompson can repeat this past offseason for next year, I expect the defense to continue to improve. Too bad he didn't trade Kampman right away when they made the switch to the 3-4. That was the bold personnel move that might have made all the difference for this year.

Considering the lack of pass rush, at least Kampman would have offered more to the run defense on the left side of the D. Jones was being manhandled by a TE (Becht).

I agree with your point about Kampman. But when I first posted the idea of trading Kampman, the idea was to trade for a draft pick and use it for an OLB and/or another position on defense or offense. With Kampman out the of the picture, TT would have been forced to find an OLB to replace him, other than J. Thompson or Brad Jones. I know TT couldn't have foreseen the injury, and that's why trading Kampman would have been such a bold move.

[pbmax]

The Packers got schooled. They got beat like a drum. Capers got outcoached and exposed. The Packers struggled to generate any pressure up the gut, they got outscheme having LBs covering WRs, they got outschemed getting small DBs getting run on, they got exposed for having a weak left side against the run, they got exposed for lack of depth in the secondary, and they got exposed for inexperience throughout the defense. There were some extenuating circumstances (turnovers, push offs), but every last deficiency on the defense got exposed and Warner had a hot hand. The Packer improved overall in 2009, but the switch to the 3-4 and injuries resulted in 4 rookies and some weak journeymen being on the field yesterday. If Thompson can repeat this past offseason for next year, I expect the defense to continue to improve. Too bad he didn't trade Kampman right away when they made the switch to the 3-4. That was the bold personnel move that might have made all the difference for this year.

Considering the lack of pass rush, at least Kampman would have offered more to the run defense on the left side of the D. Jones was being manhandled by a TE (Becht).

I agree with your point about Kampman. But when I first posted the idea of trading Kampman, the idea was to trade for a draft pick and use it for an OLB and/or another position on defense or offense. With Kampman out the of the picture, TT would have been forced to find an OLB to replace him, other than J. Thompson or Brad Jones. I know TT couldn't have foreseen the injury, and that's why trading Kampman would have been such a bold move.

No, I agree. I was just pointing out the irony of Kampman's overall misfit possibly being useful yesterday.

[wist43]

Have quite the hangover this am, lol... mostly just venting frustration.

That said, there's no excuse for that nonsense we saw yesterday... 51 pts???

What's equally amazing, is you guys seem to think they played well, and Capers did a great job... wow.

You guys did happen to notice - 51pts!!!!!

Are you even reading the responses you are getting?

Actually, not reading much... last night I was wasted (so my apologies for being overly contentious), and this am I'm hungover

I don't drink much, so my head is hurting quite a bit this am