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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bossman641
    At what price though? I'm not sure you can run the risk of tagging AK and hoping you can find somebody willing to trade for him. I know there is slated to be no salary cap, but there's no way AK deserves to be paid like a top 5 OLB.

    Is that still how it will work? Tagged players get paid the average of the top 5 players at that position?
    Franchise Top 5
    Transition Top 10
    Plus, I think the no-salary cap has a third tag, but I don't know what the pay equates to.
    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by bobblehead
      I say bring back Kampman any way you can. If anyone thinks his pass rush wasn't sorely missed I'm not sure what games you watched.

      We need Kampy back !

      I hope this isn't going to be another year of letting the good guys get away and then there you sit - again - with empty spots to fill.
      I am not a fan of waiting til the last minute either, hoping someone
      will agree to bargain basement prices.

      Not anything against TT at all, at the end of the day he's done a great job !
      But neither do we need to suddenly find in December that we're short on
      GOOD players who can fill the job.


      Agree ?????
      Is it really a halo or
      just a swelled head ?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Packers4Ever
        Originally posted by bobblehead
        I say bring back Kampman any way you can. If anyone thinks his pass rush wasn't sorely missed I'm not sure what games you watched.

        We need Kampy back !

        I hope this isn't going to be another year of letting the good guys get away and then there you sit - again - with empty spots to fill.
        I am not a fan of waiting til the last minute either, hoping someone
        will agree to bargain basement prices.

        Not anything against TT at all, at the end of the day he's done a great job !
        But neither do we need to suddenly find in December that we're short on
        GOOD players who can fill the job.


        Agree ?????
        I guess the question nobody is asking is "Does Kampman want to come back to the 3-4?" My guess is not. I bet he doesn't sign with GB unless they offer him a better than value (for a 30+ ACL-recovering player) contract and no one in a 4-3 does.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Packers4Ever
          Originally posted by bobblehead
          I say bring back Kampman any way you can. If anyone thinks his pass rush wasn't sorely missed I'm not sure what games you watched.

          We need Kampy back !
          Why? He was mediocre in the 3-4 even before he got hurt. What makes you think he would even be able to match this year's so-so performance when he is finally recovered next fall? What GB needs is a complement to Matthews, someone who can create pressure from the strong side while also holding the edge against the run and being able to drop back (credibly) into coverage. Kampman couldn't do the coverage thing and his pass rush showed a noticeable decline this year.

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          • #20
            Re: Off Season Decisions to be made for 2010.

            Originally posted by Patler
            Time to move on, today is the first day of preparations for the 2010 season.
            Lots of decisions to be made:

            For McCarthy:
            Slocum?-Needs to be replaced but won't
            Campen?-Needs to be replaced but won't

            For Thompson:
            Kampman-this is a big one. Waive good-bye
            Clifton & Tauscher - What ever it takes which I don't think is much
            Pickett? - He'll be signed for sure
            Collins? - Whatever it takes
            The interior line situation. I believe Lang is the future RT. I think when Spitz comes back they should move him to LG and keep Wells at center. Colledge days in GB are over.
            Jolly - Have to resign this guy
            Blackmon - have to bring him back, was one of the best return men in the guy before his injury and yes we need to bring in another punter.
            What about Crosby? Just bring someone to compete with him

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            • #21
              I for one did not think Kampman was playing that badly while learning a new position on a defense still trying to find itself. But his status as a free agent, with a significant injury sure muddles things up. I would like to have seen him play the year as the defense improved, and more importantly as Mathews developed on the other side.

              Makes for a difficult decision.

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              • #22
                I don't know that it will be that difficult. I think it is almost certain that some team that plays the 4-3 will offer Kampy an incentives based contract that makes it easy to cut him if he cannot return to form. The Packers won't have the option to match, and I really can't see Kampman voluntarily returning to the 3-4 based on what was written about him during the season. The Packers only hope of retaining him would be to tag him, which would be too dumb to even consider.

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                • #23
                  Kamp was very diplomatic in his response today but I got the sense that he would not mind coming back to play for this team next year.

                  We could have used him yesterday, IMHO.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by bobblehead
                    I say bring back Kampman any way you can. If anyone thinks his pass rush wasn't sorely missed I'm not sure what games you watched.
                    Agree. Despite missing the last 6 games, he was 2nd on the team in quarterback hits. The leadership qualities of guys like Kampman shouldn't be overlooked either.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      If I could have one wish for the offseason, it would be that Bush is shown the door.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by GBRulz
                        If I could have one wish for the offseason, it would be that Bush is shown the door.
                        I want Bush to be able to play the position he was kept on the roster to be, the 4th safety and the 6th corner, the guy who should rarely see the field on defense. I don't pretend to know if he is any good on ST or not, most times TV does not allow you to really evaluate ST players performances. Those who should know, the coaches, seem to think that he is. If the last DB on your roster can contribute on ST, that is a plus, because most of them aren't any good on defense.

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                        • #27
                          Right. It's fair to say the Packers didn't envision Bush being their nickel back (or dime, for that matter) the last 6 weeks of the season. The question is: Do they think that Underwood/Lee/Bell are good enough to assume those roles in the future, or do they need a major infusion of talent at this position?
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • #28
                            I think they think Underwood is good enough to play nickel (or dime if Al Harris is back) next year. But it sure would not hurt to have an infusion of talent as well, considering that guys in their mid 30s like Harris and Woodson tend to get hurt a lot. If you go with two long in the tooth guys like Al and Chuck as your starting corners, you had better have depth behind them.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Joemailman
                              Right. It's fair to say the Packers didn't envision Bush being their nickel back (or dime, for that matter) the last 6 weeks of the season. The question is: Do they think that Underwood/Lee/Bell are good enough to assume those roles in the future, or do they need a major infusion of talent at this position?
                              I think they need to throw Blackmon and Ford in that group too, pick two to keep and draft another one or two.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Off Season Decisions to be made for 2010.

                                For McCarthy:
                                Slocum?
                                - The question is really what is available? I really have no idea but would guess someone is.

                                Campen?
                                - Consistency may be more important than trying to hit a homerun on someone new.

                                For Thompson:
                                Kampman-this is a big one. Tag and trade? Sign? Waive good-bye?
                                - Tag will saddle him with a contract that nobody will pay. Probably gone.

                                Clifton & Tauscher - How much should you pay to bring either back?
                                - Pretty sure they can sign these guys for a reasonable amount. Either would make a great backup and they could probably get another 10 games out of them despite their age.

                                Pickett? - Probably quite doable.
                                - Value should be there, sign.

                                Collins? - Not sure you can let him go, but how much will you pay?
                                - It sucks, but he is probably worth the loads of cash he will command.

                                The interior line situation. Do you pay any one of them?
                                - Yes, pick the best of them. They do not want to start from scratch. How much value will other teams really see in them? Many of them are relatively undersized for most other teams.

                                Where does Lang fit, guard or tackle. Is he the RT of the future?
                                RT.

                                Jolly - seems easy. Make him play for the RFA contract until his legal woes are clarified.
                                -Yes, unless you want to roll the dice and lock him up for a few years now when his value is low.

                                Blackmon - bring him back at your price. Don't make a Bush-like mistake.
                                -I guess. I really hope they like some of the young guys and/or new pickups better. I think his time is about up.

                                You have to find a punter.
                                -I've seen much worse, and I doubt they go out and spend big bucks on a guy. We'll have to see if they can find someone.

                                What about Crosby? Send him to a kicking guru? Who competes with him?
                                - Reports of his demise are premature. He bet he bounces back next year.

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