Saints vs Vikings - Game Thread

[MOBB DEEP]

Unfortunately I think Brett is done for good,I think some of the cheap shots he took tonight will help make that decision. You all can say what you want about me but I am a huge Brett Favre fan,always have been always will be. IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

BINGO...

i will cancel sunday ticket IMMEDIATELY

[mraynrand]

Unfortunately I think Brett is done for good,I think some of the cheap shots he took tonight will help make that decision. You all can say what you want about me but I am a huge Brett Favre fan,always have been always will be. IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

Singular - he took one cheap shot. The Saints had the right idea - you gotta rough up the ancient QB. Favre played very well, right up to his last play.

[mraynrand]

Unfortunately I think Brett is done for good,I think some of the cheap shots he took tonight will help make that decision. You all can say what you want about me but I am a huge Brett Favre fan,always have been always will be. IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

BINGO...

i will cancel sunday ticket IMMEDIATELY

Does that mean you will stop posting here? What about Vick? What about Vince Young? What about the Rooney Rule?

[Lurker64]

IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

Really, it won't. Because the day he really retires won't be marked by his actual retirement, it will be marked by the fact that he doesn't come back after that point. We won't find out if he's really retired for months after the next time he retires. The next time he retires everybody's questions will be "is it for real this time? He's done this before and seemed really sincere about it". In five months or so, we'll find out how real it is, and then it may be sad, or not, depending on one's personal opinions.

[ThunderDan]

Unfortunately I think Brett is done for good,I think some of the cheap shots he took tonight will help make that decision. You all can say what you want about me but I am a huge Brett Favre fan,always have been always will be. IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

I loved BF the Packer but I don't agree with your last line. There are always new guys stepping in and becoming Superstars. Favre going out ARod "maybe" coming in. Derrick Thomas -> Clay Matthews III Barry Sanders -> Chris Johnson The list goes on and on. Pick whoever you like. I just thought of 2 Packers off of the top of my head.

The game will always replace lost talent with new. It would be horrible for the sport if it didn't.

[mraynrand]

IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.

Really, it won't. Because the day he really retires won't be marked by his actual retirement, it will be marked by the fact that he doesn't come back after that point. We won't find out if he's really retired for months after the next time he retires. The next time he retires everybody's questions will be "is it for real this time? He's done this before and seemed really sincere about it". In five months or so, we'll find out how real it is, and then it may be sad, or not, depending on one's personal opinions.

The 1-7 month period over which Favre retires will be a sad, happy, depressing, exciting, boring 1-7 month period.

[Bretsky]

Watched game away from PC and reading through this thread makes me happy I was not in here

A few comments

1. This one might be the mother of all f'ck ups for Favre. This game was theirs to take. They were right there needing only a few yards to kick that field goal. Ryan Take it to the Bank Longwell was going to nail that kick down the middle of the uprights if he was in range and he's gold in a dome.

Favre could have jogged five yards and given Longwell a 47-50 yard field goal. Just pure stupid for him to make that throw. No ifs, ands, or buts. That decision pissed the game away for the Vikes. This one was probably worse than the Giants and Eagles botch ups by Favre. In both of those scenarios GB had to put together a long drive. They were already set up to win in this game. Favre failed.


2. Secondary, to the terrible decision by Favre, was an absolute inexcusable "Too Many Men on the Field/Huddle" penalty be the Vikings when they were in field goal range already. What were they thinking ? Was that on Bevell, the OL coach, or Childress ? Making this inexcusable coaching/personnell mistake caused #1 to happen. Because IMO Longwell would've nailed the kick from the spot they were at.

3. I called this last week; I expected the home team to win on this one. I expected a hostile environment and noted my view that Favre would have a rough game. If this game were in Minnesota I'd have picked them.

This game shows how important it is to secure home field advantage. No more slow crap starts for Green Bay next year. We need to get it done right off the bat.

[pbmax]

I agree you cannot lay it all at Brett's feet. His was the most ill-timed, but think about this.

They had 6 fumbles didn't they? And they recovered 3 of them. As much as I think the Vikings should win this game handily, the Saints could have put this away if they fall on the ball better.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I agree you cannot lay it all at Brett's feet. His was the most ill-timed, but think about this.

They had 6 fumbles didn't they? And they recovered 3 of them. As much as I think the Vikings should win this game handily, the Saints could have put this away if they fall on the ball better.

+1 on not laying it all on Brett.

Had the Saints players tried to dive on the ball instead of pick it up and run with it, this could have been a Saints rout.

[mraynrand]

Watched game away from PC and reading through this thread makes me happy I was not in here

A few comments

1. This one might be the mother of all f'ck ups for Favre. This game was theirs to take. They were right there needing only a few yards to kick that field goal. Ryan Take it to the Bank Longwell was going to nail that kick down the middle of the uprights if he was in range and he's gold in a dome.

Favre could have jogged five yards and given Longwell a 47-50 yard field goal. Just pure stupid for him to make that throw. No ifs, ands, or buts. That decision pissed the game away for the Vikes. This one was probably worse than the Giants and Eagles botch ups by Favre. In both of those scenarios GB had to put together a long drive. They were already set up to win in this game. Favre failed.


2. Secondary, to the terrible decision by Favre, was an absolute inexcusable "Too Many Men on the Field/Huddle" penalty be the Vikings when they were in field goal range already. What were they thinking ? Was that on Bevell, the OL coach, or Childress ? Making this inexcusable coaching/personnell mistake caused #1 to happen. Because IMO Longwell would've nailed the kick from the spot they were at.

3. I called this last week; I expected the home team to win on this one. I expected a hostile environment and noted my view that Favre would have a rough game. If this game were in Minnesota I'd have picked them.

This game shows how important it is to secure home field advantage. No more slow crap starts for Green Bay next year. We need to get it done right off the bat.

The Vikings were clearly, by far, the better team. Favre's last play notwithstanding, they did all they could to give the game away. They had what 2 penalties until the last few minutes. They pissed the game away, over and over. They chould have won by two TDs, with NO being totally tight the whole second half. Again, Favre's bone head play will stick in everyone's head, but it never should have come to that. Favre played a great game up to that point.

You're thing about the home field is probably right. It's almost hard to imagine how much worse the Saints would have played in the second half if they had crowd noise to deal with.

[mraynrand]

I agree you cannot lay it all at Brett's feet. His was the most ill-timed, but think about this.

They had 6 fumbles didn't they? And they recovered 3 of them. As much as I think the Vikings should win this game handily, the Saints could have put this away if they fall on the ball better.

+1 on not laying it all on Brett.

Had the Saints players tried to dive on the ball instead of pick it up and run with it, this could have been a Saints rout.

If the Vikings hadn't fumbled every other play, they would have run NO out of the building.

[gbgary]

The 1-7 month period over which Favre retires will be a sad, happy, depressing, exciting, boring 1-7 month period.

as i said before...i'll bet he announces he's coming back right away...another shot at the Packers.

[pbmax]

I agree you cannot lay it all at Brett's feet. His was the most ill-timed, but think about this.

They had 6 fumbles didn't they? And they recovered 3 of them. As much as I think the Vikings should win this game handily, the Saints could have put this away if they fall on the ball better.

+1 on not laying it all on Brett.

Had the Saints players tried to dive on the ball instead of pick it up and run with it, this could have been a Saints rout.

If the Vikings hadn't fumbled every other play, they would have run NO out of the building.

But some of those fumbles were forced. It wasn't all handoffs. So some credit to the Saints D.

[green_bowl_packer]

Brett press conference on NFLN right now.

[Joemailman]

According to the Guys on Fox, Favre has said he already knows what he is going to do. I think he wanted one last shot, and had it. This time, I think it's over.