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  • Originally posted by mraynrand
    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
    Originally posted by pbmax
    I agree you cannot lay it all at Brett's feet. His was the most ill-timed, but think about this.

    They had 6 fumbles didn't they? And they recovered 3 of them. As much as I think the Vikings should win this game handily, the Saints could have put this away if they fall on the ball better.
    +1 on not laying it all on Brett.

    Had the Saints players tried to dive on the ball instead of pick it up and run with it, this could have been a Saints rout.
    If the Vikings hadn't fumbled every other play, they would have run NO out of the building.
    Indeed. See those 4qt stats? It was like vikings 200+ yards, Saints less then 30. But man fumble after fumble.

    By the time you get to #6, after taking a beating and barely able to hobble around, Favre knew the game was on him. It wasn't really per say. His last play was obviously on him, but it's also a play that should of never happened. This was a total team loss by the vikings, and it was very hard emotionally, as much as I didn't want the vikings to win, to see Favre giving everything he had. Got hit what, 11+ times? Almost knocked out the game, barely able to stand at times, getting into the fumbles for recoveries (noteably something you will never see a Peyton Manning do). It was like "this is the stuff that made us fall in love with the guy. He just never gets up, never lets injuries keep him down". It ended badly, but it was a total team loss today, and it's not all on brett, even if the last play is.

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    • Originally posted by pbmax
      But some of those fumbles were forced. It wasn't all handoffs. So some credit to the Saints D.
      The Berrian fumble was a prime example. Also the Saints D were like sharks with blood in the water around AP and ripping the ball at every chance.

      I think the biggest momentum change (outside the pick in the 4th qtr) was the muffed handoff after Bush's muffed punt. Those 2 plays were 10-14 pts alone.

      Credit Williams' D for attacking the ball and forcing turnovers.
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      • Originally posted by Joemailman
        According to the Guys on Fox, Favre has said he already knows what he is going to do. I think he wanted one last shot, and had it. This time, I think it's over.

        he said he's going to take some time
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • Originally posted by Bretsky
          Originally posted by Joemailman
          According to the Guys on Fox, Favre has said he already knows what he is going to do. I think he wanted one last shot, and had it. This time, I think it's over.

          he said he's going to take some time
          He might as well retire, since at this point he doesn't lose anything if he changes his mind in June.
          </delurk>

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          • Originally posted by Lurker64
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            According to the Guys on Fox, Favre has said he already knows what he is going to do. I think he wanted one last shot, and had it. This time, I think it's over.

            he said he's going to take some time
            He might as well retire, since at this point he doesn't lose anything if he changes his mind in June.

            Actually history would say he should just say he's coming back until he's 100% sure
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Originally posted by digitaldean
              I think the biggest momentum change (outside the pick in the 4th qtr) was the muffed handoff after Bush's muffed punt. Those 2 plays were 10-14 pts alone.
              Absolutely. That was the turning point of the game.
              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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              • Originally posted by mraynrand
                Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                Originally posted by Packerarcher
                Unfortunately I think Brett is done for good,I think some of the cheap shots he took tonight will help make that decision. You all can say what you want about me but I am a huge Brett Favre fan,always have been always will be. IMO the day he really retires will be a sad,sad day for football.
                BINGO...

                i will cancel sunday ticket IMMEDIATELY
                Does that mean you will stop posting here? What about Vick? What about Vince Young? What about the Rooney Rule?
                lol... i couldnt resist loggin on one last time this season

                i will ALWAYS root for the pack but would just do the sportsbar circuit again...i RARELY take advantage of the ticket 'cept for pack and favre games so seeing highlights will suffice

                would have to come back here and continue to teach you all about keepn things in perspective and gettn some laughs and knowledge from the likes of u, mission, red, sc, dy, bossy, thunderdan, joe, shadow, hoosier, gex, double o, bretsky, gary, skin, ty, patler, pb, gunakor, craig the cheeshead, howardroark, lurker, and so on...

                even though i disagree with most on the favre issue i thoroughly enjoy u hosers

                plus packerrats needs some soul up in this piece

                one love u corny cats...
                They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                • Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                  lol... i couldnt resist loggin on one last time this season

                  i will ALWAYS root for the pack but would just do the sportsbar circuit again...i RARELY take advantage of the ticket 'cept for pack and favre games so seeing highlights will suffice

                  would have to come back here and continue to teach you all about keepn things in perspective and gettn some laughs and knowledge from the likes of u, mission, red, sc, dy, bossy, thunderdan, joe, shadow, hoosier, gex, double o, bretsky, gary, skin, ty, patler, pb, gunakor, craig the cheeshead, howardroark, lurker, and so on...

                  even though i disagree with most on the favre issue i thoroughly enjoy u hosers

                  plus packerrats needs some soul up in this piece

                  one love u corny cats...

                  back atcha!!

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                  • What did the Vikings serve for their pre-game meal? Turnovers. This caused them all to choke!
                    "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                    • I got what I wanted. Saints in the SB. Payton was one I wanted when TT was interviewing coaches. I'm pretty happy with M3, but have a soft spot for NO. Unless they're playing GB.
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • THAT FINAL PASS INTERFERENCE PLAY

                        NFL Network keeps playing it over and over. That call was the game. And it was a terrible call.

                        The receiver did a Vlade Divak Flop. Forget about the ball being uncatchable..........Lieber didn't touch the guy.

                        Horrible; the referee should have earned a nice scolding next week. You cant' make that call in OT.
                        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                        • Originally posted by Bretsky
                          THAT FINAL PASS INTERFERENCE PLAY

                          NFL Network keeps playing it over and over. That call was the game. And it was a terrible call.

                          The receiver did a Vlade Divak Flop. Forget about the ball being uncatchable..........Lieber didn't touch the guy.

                          Horrible; the referee should have earned a nice scolding next week. You cant' make that call in OT.
                          I agree, it was a bad call. But considering the disparity in the penalties, its hard to work up much outrage.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by Bretsky
                            THAT FINAL PASS INTERFERENCE PLAY

                            NFL Network keeps playing it over and over. That call was the game. And it was a terrible call.

                            The receiver did a Vlade Divak Flop. Forget about the ball being uncatchable..........Lieber didn't touch the guy.

                            Horrible; the referee should have earned a nice scolding next week. You cant' make that call in OT.
                            In slow-mo it was a bad call. In real time, it looked like the receiver got pushed. Blame the ref if you must, but at first glance it looked like pass interference.

                            The low hit on the MN QB on the first interception was a worse miss by the refs.
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                            • Originally posted by pbmax
                              Originally posted by Bretsky
                              THAT FINAL PASS INTERFERENCE PLAY

                              NFL Network keeps playing it over and over. That call was the game. And it was a terrible call.

                              The receiver did a Vlade Divak Flop. Forget about the ball being uncatchable..........Lieber didn't touch the guy.

                              Horrible; the referee should have earned a nice scolding next week. You cant' make that call in OT.
                              I agree, it was a bad call. But considering the disparity in the penalties, its hard to work up much outrage.

                              I've always felt OT was the spot where you only call the blatantly obvious calls. that makes it even worse. Regarding the disparity of penalties, I get the feeling the Saints came in with the plan to hit Favre and hit him often even if they did bring some penalites. I think it worked. And they may have even got away with one.


                              I also thought that holding call against Colledge was terrible in OT; I'm not sure his guy was getting a sack w/o the hold.

                              And if you call the hold then you call the helmet to helmet
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • Originally posted by MadScientist
                                Originally posted by Bretsky
                                THAT FINAL PASS INTERFERENCE PLAY

                                NFL Network keeps playing it over and over. That call was the game. And it was a terrible call.

                                The receiver did a Vlade Divak Flop. Forget about the ball being uncatchable..........Lieber didn't touch the guy.

                                Horrible; the referee should have earned a nice scolding next week. You cant' make that call in OT.
                                In slow-mo it was a bad call. In real time, it looked like the receiver got pushed. Blame the ref if you must, but at first glance it looked like pass interference.

                                The low hit on the MN QB on the first interception was a worse miss by the refs.
                                Even in reg speed you could plainly see no contact,my reasoning on the no call for the low hit on the QB is that's only for pretty boy QB's.

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