Kiper Mock 2.0

[LP]

Argue all you want, Ted will take the highest rated player on HIS board regardless of position. He's said before that "you can never have too many good football players". Trade up, down, or in circles, his approach doesn't change. Perceived value at the spot where you are picking.

[Smidgeon]

Argue all you want, Ted will take the highest rated player on HIS board regardless of position. He's said before that "you can never have too many good football players". Trade up, down, or in circles, his approach doesn't change. Perceived value at the spot where you are picking.

I agree. I also prefer that he do this. Personally, I'll always wonder about Crabtree versus Raji, but I already think Crabtree would be too much of a headache. I think both will be special.

[RashanGary]

Provided, of course, that the OLB he trades up to get pans out. Keep in mind there is no guarantee with draft picks. Otherwise Tom Brady wouldn't have lasted until round 6, Colston and Driver and Jones to round 7, etc.

Right, assuming we got a stud pass protector and a stud pass rusher that can also handle the other OLB responsibilities.

That's a lot to ask from one draft let alone two picks, but we're in the business of dreaming up ideal scenerios and this is one situation that I would consider ideal.

[Smidgeon]

Provided, of course, that the OLB he trades up to get pans out. Keep in mind there is no guarantee with draft picks. Otherwise Tom Brady wouldn't have lasted until round 6, Colston and Driver and Jones to round 7, etc.

Right, assuming we got a stud pass protector and a stud pass rusher that can also handle the other OLB responsibilities.

That's a lot to ask from one draft let alone two picks, but we're in the business of dreaming up ideal scenerios and this is one situation that I would consider ideal.

Me too.

[rbaloha1]

Hope a left tackle is available at the Packer's slot. If not, Taylor Mays would be nice.

Hell no to Taylor Mays, he will be the next Roy Williams. Too much of a liability in coverage.

A guy I would not mind us selecting in the 2nd round would be Myron Rolle from FSU.

Mays had an excellent junior year -- probably a top 10 pick. Injuries limited his play during senior year.

Caper's scheme can mask potential coverage problems. Again I see Atwater not Roy Williams. Adds nastiness to the defense.

[Brandon494]

As noted, Mays lack of talent around him this past year exposed his weaknesses. He has nothing in regards to instincts and he gets exposed in coverage. He also lacks in tackling cause all he wants to do is make the ESPN highlight hit and as a resullt, whiffs a lot. My dream would be a top T falling to 23 as one should and Brandon Graham falling into the second round where TT once again TRADES up to draft a stud OLB.

Graham isnt going to fail to the 2nd round but there are 5 OT that are rated as 1st rounders and I think we will select Bruce Campbell.

[Smidgeon]

As noted, Mays lack of talent around him this past year exposed his weaknesses. He has nothing in regards to instincts and he gets exposed in coverage. He also lacks in tackling cause all he wants to do is make the ESPN highlight hit and as a resullt, whiffs a lot. My dream would be a top T falling to 23 as one should and Brandon Graham falling into the second round where TT once again TRADES up to draft a stud OLB.

Graham isnt going to fail to the 2nd round but there are 5 OT that are rated as 1st rounders and I think we will select Bruce Campbell.

I've seen many different rankings for the OTs (and I heard four in the top tier, not 5). How do you rank them, and who do you consider the fifth?

[b bulldog]

I have seen some boards having him lasting until the bills 2nd round pick

[Brandon494]

Graham is the top rated OLB, those draft boards are dead off.

[Brandon494]

As noted, Mays lack of talent around him this past year exposed his weaknesses. He has nothing in regards to instincts and he gets exposed in coverage. He also lacks in tackling cause all he wants to do is make the ESPN highlight hit and as a resullt, whiffs a lot. My dream would be a top T falling to 23 as one should and Brandon Graham falling into the second round where TT once again TRADES up to draft a stud OLB.

Graham isnt going to fail to the 2nd round but there are 5 OT that are rated as 1st rounders and I think we will select Bruce Campbell.

I've seen many different rankings for the OTs (and I heard four in the top tier, not 5). How do you rank them, and who do you consider the fifth?

IMO these 6 tackles are first round talent and I could see us taking Bulaga, Campbell or Brown with the 23rd pick.

1 Anthony Davis JR 6-6/325/- Rutgers
2 Russell Okung SR 6-5/300/- Oklahoma State
3 Trent Williams SR 6-5/290/- Oklahoma
4 Bryan Bulaga JR 6-6/290/- Iowa
5 Bruce Campbell JR 6-7/310/- Maryland
6 Charles Brown SR 6-6/295/- USC

[b bulldog]

Anyone who thinks they can call the draft is full of BS. The OLB from TCU and UT in some eyes are better prospects than Graham.

[Brandon494]

Anyone who thinks they can call the draft is full of BS. The OLB from TCU and UT in some eyes are better prospects than Graham.

Maybe so but Graham still isnt falling out of the 1st round.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'd be thrilled to see Campbell or Bulaga fall to the Pack at #23. It's becoming increasingly obvious that Spiller wont be around for our pick and Jahvid Best might as well be made of glass. It doesn't look like we'll get our game-changer this year...atleast not one that carries the ball.

[Fritz]

Kiper is notoriously lousy at mocking the draft. His mocks are a mockery.

But it's all for fun anyway, right? Do you guys think any GM - outside ol' Matt Millen - would set his draft board based on Mel Kiper's opinion?

[Maxie the Taxi]

Kiper is notoriously lousy at mocking the draft. His mocks are a mockery.

But it's all for fun anyway, right? Do you guys think any GM - outside ol' Matt Millen - would set his draft board based on Mel Kiper's opinion?

Amen.

Kiper is very over-rated. If he was such a hotshot, insider, analyst of talent, why didn't he have Brandon Graham going earlier in his first Mock Draft? Instead the kid vaults up his board on the basis of a single performance in the Senior Bowl.

In fact, a better question is: If Kiper is so familiar with college talent, why does he need to make more than one Mock Draft? He should get it right the first time.