2010 NFL draft combine thread

[hoosier]

I read something yesterday, I think it was by Michael Lombardi, that compared Jerry Hughes and Brandon Graham and seemed to suggest they were about equal. Has anyone seen a projection of where Hughes goes? Anyone read other opinions of how he compares to other pass rushing LBs?

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Taylor Mays 4.24 (unofficial) ties Chris Johnson... who was saying the guy was too slow to play safety? LOL

He still might not have any ball skills but that could potentially be taught.

4.34 on the second one... veered off a bit to the right. Dude is BIG to be running that fast.

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Devin McCourtey in that 4.34 4.35 range... dude blocked 8 kicks in college!

Looks long too

Warren from Mich is SLOW (might work in the zone)

[Freak Out]

Taylor Mays 4.24 (unofficial) ties Chris Johnson... who was saying the guy was too slow to play safety? LOL

He still might not have any ball skills but that could potentially be taught.

4.34 on the second one... veered off a bit to the right. Dude is BIG to be running that fast.

Wow......dude has been taking his vitamins.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Taylor Mays 4.24 (unofficial) ties Chris Johnson... who was saying the guy was too slow to play safety? LOL

He still might not have any ball skills but that could potentially be taught.

4.34 on the second one... veered off a bit to the right. Dude is BIG to be running that fast.

I think that pretty much solidifies Oakland's pick.

On a side note, looks like Eric Berry ran a 4.4 unofficially. I'm curious to see his vertical. When a player with his college tape has this good of a combine it has to justify a top 5 selection IMO.

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Taylor Mays 4.24 (unofficial) ties Chris Johnson... who was saying the guy was too slow to play safety? LOL

He still might not have any ball skills but that could potentially be taught.

4.34 on the second one... veered off a bit to the right. Dude is BIG to be running that fast.

I think that pretty much solidifies Oakland's pick.

On a side note, looks like Eric Berry ran a 4.4 unofficially. I'm curious to see his vertical. When a player with his college tape has this good of a combine it has to justify a top 5 selection IMO.

They're talking about Berry right now and how his combine performance has basically solidified the spot everyone projected him at.

Joe Hayden might slide running a 4.6 ...

Osauwu or whatever.. that kid from Indiana (Pennsylvania)... looks like he has an NFL frame and definite speed. I'd love to get him in the 3rd.

They're talking about the Packers maybe taking Mays if a lot of the top OL are off the board at 23.

Still not sure how'd I'd feel about that but the upside is huge...

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OK somehow that's a 4.43 official 40 for Mays. Not sure how there's that much of a discrepancy in times.

Kid looks good. Jumping up to get the ball at the highest point, looks scary out there... I'm feeling guilty for slightly getting back on the Mays bandwagon after talking some shit about him.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

No Mays for me. I've seen too much of him to think he'll be anything but Roy Williams 2.0.

[Lurker64]

OK somehow that's a 4.43 official 40 for Mays. Not sure how there's that much of a discrepancy in times.

Kid looks good. Jumping up to get the ball at the highest point, looks scary out there... I'm feeling guilty for slightly getting back on the Mays bandwagon after talking some shit about him.

I really don't understand why they can't set it up to time 10, 20, and 40 yard splits electronically and have the results available immediately. Isn't electronic timing pretty standard in track and field?

[swede]

LOL

OK somehow that's a 4.43 official 40 for Mays. Not sure how there's that much of a discrepancy in times.

Kid looks good. Jumping up to get the ball at the highest point, looks scary out there... I'm feeling guilty for slightly getting back on the Mays bandwagon after talking some shit about him.

Mayock and Coach Billick had a great discussion about that.

A scout busts his hump looking at tapes, watching games all over their region and finding out who can play football, game in and game out, with solid fundamentals and then the coach comes to the combine and falls in love with the Tarzans that play like Jane. (Not that Mays is in that category, but many have warned us away from Mays and suggest that he has flaws that will keep him from being a good NFL safety.)

The discussion ended with the idea that a well-run football team would use unexpected combine numbers, good and bad, along with the tape to reach the right conclusions for the team.

It was funny to think of the scouts doing all that work and having the coaches waltz in and get influenced unduly by combine numbers.

[RashanGary]

Now that we don't play man, I'd love if if a slower, but dominate zone corner dropped to us in the 2nd or 3rd rounds.

[Patler]

From the GBPG, with an interesting quote from TT:

Much ado about nothing: After spending a week in Indianapolis, decision-makers across the NFL will return to their draft rooms Wednesday and begin factoring in the measurements, testing results and medical data they collected at the combine.

General manager Ted Thompson said he and John Dorsey, the Packers' director of college scouting, will move players up and players down based on the new information.

Over the next four weeks, scouts will fan out testing prospects on their college campuses.

In the two weeks leading up to the draft, Thompson, Dorsey and others will make their final adjustments, and guess what? Their stack of players won't look much different than it was before Indy.

"By the time you get to the draft, those names go back to the original place they were before we came to the combine," Thompson said. "I swear it happens.

"You go back and watch the tape and say, 'You know what? We're nuts.'

"So, as much as we can, we try to lean on the football stuff and say, 'Is he a good player? Does he like to play the game?'

"If he can do those things, he has a chance to be a Packer."

[cheesner]

From the GBPG, with an interesting quote from TT:

Much ado about nothing: After spending a week in Indianapolis, decision-makers across the NFL will return to their draft rooms Wednesday and begin factoring in the measurements, testing results and medical data they collected at the combine.

General manager Ted Thompson said he and John Dorsey, the Packers' director of college scouting, will move players up and players down based on the new information.

Over the next four weeks, scouts will fan out testing prospects on their college campuses.

In the two weeks leading up to the draft, Thompson, Dorsey and others will make their final adjustments, and guess what? Their stack of players won't look much different than it was before Indy.

"By the time you get to the draft, those names go back to the original place they were before we came to the combine," Thompson said. "I swear it happens.

"You go back and watch the tape and say, 'You know what? We're nuts.'

"So, as much as we can, we try to lean on the football stuff and say, 'Is he a good player? Does he like to play the game?'

"If he can do those things, he has a chance to be a Packer."

This is good to hear.

Those who are running down Mays' field production - he played much better the previous season. I am wondering if loosing 3 probowl caliber LBs in front of him, affected his game. I haven't watched much USC to know why the production dropped, I just remember it was a bit shocking the first I heard that some guy named Berry may be the first S off the board in 2010 after hearing so much positive talk about Mays.

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In combine interviews he said he the coaches really stressed for him to be a thumper back there and play a certain role. He said he will only listen to what his present (and future) coaches tell him to do and playing to outside criticism won't help him keep his (current) job.

Could be the whole AJ Hawk thing at WLB in the 4-3 (or so we thought) or just a clever response.

Didn't see him miss any balls or catch anything with his body. Everything in the drills was at the highest point (that's high for a guy that athletic and tall) or reached out in front of him. At least he seems well aware of the criticism and has been working on it.

And even though that 4.42 doesn't look as good as a 4.24, he was still the fastest out of all DBs (not just safeties).

[RashanGary]

Nice find, Patler. Interesting new Tedism.