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2010 Mock Draft Poll: Vote for who the Packers should draft!
I like Pouncey as well but this draft is deep with O-line talent and we can easily find a guard later in the draft.
And the knock against Thompson will remain to be that he refuses to use a first round pick on an offensive lineman to solve his OL woes.
I like Pouncey too. I don't think he'd be a tremendous reach where we are picking. I think he is a first round talent, and comes with the added benefit of allowing Lang to move out to RT almost exclusively. It's like finding a new guard AND a new RT all with the same draft pick. If the draft falls this way, Pouncey is my choice.
Wilson gives us depth at CB, that much is most certainly true. But we have depth at CB - it was just shredded last season. 3 DB's were put on IR before Jarrett Bush ever saw the field defensively. I have to assume we aren't going to have that happen to us every year. And it would only be depth as a return man he'd offer, at least to start the season, because Will Blackmon signed his tender offer and will be our return man to begin the season.
Wilson is purely a luxury pick IMO. Pouncey fills an immediate need at LG plus a future need with Lang out at RT. It's a better value for the pick. Again, if the draft falls this way, Pouncey is my choice.
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I looked at what we NEED the most.....I figured Davis, Mays, or a RB.
I just think in looking at what Thompson does, Mays is the guy...PLUS, Mays has spent time this offseason in and around Green Bay with his best friend Clay Matthews.
Are you sure about that? I know he has been working out with Clay Matthews but I don't think Clay lives in GB during the offseason.
I like Pouncey as well but this draft is deep with O-line talent and we can easily find a guard later in the draft.
And the knock against Thompson will remain to be that he refuses to use a first round pick on an offensive lineman to solve his OL woes.
I like Pouncey too. I don't think he'd be a tremendous reach where we are picking. I think he is a first round talent, and comes with the added benefit of allowing Lang to move out to RT almost exclusively. It's like finding a new guard AND a new RT all with the same draft pick. If the draft falls this way, Pouncey is my choice.
Wilson gives us depth at CB, that much is most certainly true. But we have depth at CB - it was just shredded last season. 3 DB's were put on IR before Jarrett Bush ever saw the field defensively. I have to assume we aren't going to have that happen to us every year. And it would only be depth as a return man he'd offer, at least to start the season, because Will Blackmon signed his tender offer and will be our return man to begin the season.
Wilson is purely a luxury pick IMO. Pouncey fills an immediate need at LG plus a future need with Lang out at RT. It's a better value for the pick. Again, if the draft falls this way, Pouncey is my choice.
Yea we had 3 DBs put on IR but two of them have shown nothing to prove they can play CB in the NFL and the other is a 35 year old coming off a serious ACL injury. We don't know if Harris will be ready by the start of the season, and even if he is we don't know what type of player he will be. Pat Lee has shown nothing so far. I understand he was drafted in the 2nd round, but thats nothing to me until he actually shows something on the field. Will Blackmon also is coming off an ACL injury so don't expect him just to return to his old self returning kicks right away.
Kyle Wilson is not a luxury pick and is a greater need then a guard IMO. If drafted he would start the season as our nickel DB instead of having Bush out there and would also be our main return man which was one of the worst last season. We have Spitz and Colledge to battle at LG, Lang will be stayin a tackle either way IMO. Also the draft is loaded with O-line draft so whos to say we can't pick up a solid O-line prospect later in the draft. Not to mention we could also just wait until next season to draft Pouncey.
I've had a bit of a crush on McCluster because I think he might be projected as a special teams stud. Is Wilson that kind of talent or is he like a Blackmond ?
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
I've had a bit of a crush on McCluster because I think he might be projected as a special teams stud. Is Wilson that kind of talent or is he like a Blackmond ?
I don't get the love for Pouncey. Sure he's a good college player who projects well in the NFL, and sure the offensive line leaves something to be desired... but don't we need tackles and not guards or centers? Pouncey seems like purely a luxury pick.
Between Colledge, Spitz, Wells, Evan Dietrich-Smith, and Sitton we don't need to worry that much about the interior OL. They may not be elite, but they'll be able to get the job done. If the Packers pick an offensive lineman in the first three rounds, that guy had better project to tackle in the NFL.
I don't get the love for Pouncey. Sure he's a good college player who projects well in the NFL, and sure the offensive line leaves something to be desired... but don't we need tackles and not guards or centers? Pouncey seems like purely a luxury pick.
Between Colledge, Spitz, Wells, Evan Dietrich-Smith, and Sitton we don't need to worry that much about the interior OL. They may not be elite, but they'll be able to get the job done. If the Packers pick an offensive lineman in the first three rounds, that guy had better project to tackle in the NFL.
Pouncey just strikes me as a total luxury pick.
Exactly, only guard I wouldnt mind us picking is Mike Iupati and thats only because he has the talent to play LT in the NFL.
This is a writeup on Davis BEFORE all of the talk at and after the combine of him coming off like a slug:
02/24/2010 - 2010 NFL DRAFT SCOUT PRE-COMBINE TOP 64: 23 *Anthony Davis ??? T, Rutgers, 6-6, 325, 1-2: Blessed with all the ability to be as good as he wants to be. But scouts wonder if he is willing to do the work to maximize his tremendous raw athleticism. Davis has an explosive first step, the strength one expects from a man his size, plus footwork and agility one doesn't expect from such a huge person. But he will have to turn up his competitive fire and lower his weight to be consistent in the NFL. He was suspended one game for violating team rules in 2008; benched for a quarter in 2009 for missing a team meeting; and demoted to second team after reporting overweight last year. - Frank Cooney, USA TODAY/NFL Draft Scout
Your classic slug that just doesn't get it. Cetidus Hunt.
What does Davis have to do with Cletius Hunt? He was 2 minutes late for the meeting, big deal. If Clifton goes down ARod is going to be sacked 6 times a game (again), and you're not going to find a LT nearly as good as AD in the 2nd round. It depends what scout you talk to, some think he'll be a starter at LT:
Davis is a prototypical left tackle in that he is a good foot athlete and has bulk as well as long arms that allow him to get a fit and control opponents as he steers them on by the pocket. He is not a natural knee bender and will let his pads get too far forward as he extends to sustain his blocks. He can slide and shuffle with an edge rusher and has the body control and foot agility to react and adjust to counter moves. He has shown a tendency to gain too much weight and will need to be monitored. He has strong hands and upper body and can swallow opponents up on the run block but does not finish his blocks off as much as he could. He will need some time to develop but could end up as a starting left tackle in a couple of years.
I like Wilson too, but he also has question marks, he's not a great tackler and he gets lost in zone coverage, and the Packers play a lot of zone :
Scouting Report-A lot like Boise State, Wilson probably doesn't get the positive press he deserves. He's got good size for a corner, and is built like an athlete. Which works because he is a very athletic kid. Nice straight line speed, good quickness, and excellent change of direction. The thing that stands out to me in Wilson's game is his ability to play press man. He gets up on the line, does a nice job at the snap with the chuck, and is able to keep himself low and trail wide outs. His backpedal is really technically sound, and overall he's a very polished player. This is a good representation of his experience at Boise State. On the downside of Wilson's game, he's not a great tackler and doesn't show a lot of effort in the run game. Also, for as good as he is in man coverage, his zone skills are lacking. It's like he's better when he has a guy to mirror and chase, but he gets lost at times with zone assignments.
The more I read, the more I think Pouncey is this year's Steve Hutchinson. Yeah, yeah, he's a guard, no one wants to draft a guard that high, blah blah - but if you do he'll start from day one and be a Pro Bowler for years.
Maybe he's the guy. High upside, low risk, possible immediate help, allows Lang to move outside right.
I wouldn't be upset. But Darryn Colledge would be.
I think Mike Iupati (or something close to that) is this year's Hutchinson, a Guard only who will get drafted higher than normal for a guard. At least that is what the professional draftniks are babbling.
Pouncey is more Guard/Center. I like to think of him as an athletic Frank Winters.
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Yea we had 3 DBs put on IR but two of them have shown nothing to prove they can play CB in the NFL and the other is a 35 year old coming off a serious ACL injury. We don't know if Harris will be ready by the start of the season, and even if he is we don't know what type of player he will be. Pat Lee has shown nothing so far. I understand he was drafted in the 2nd round, but thats nothing to me until he actually shows something on the field. Will Blackmon also is coming off an ACL injury so don't expect him just to return to his old self returning kicks right away.
Kyle Wilson is not a luxury pick and is a greater need then a guard IMO. If drafted he would start the season as our nickel DB instead of having Bush out there and would also be our main return man which was one of the worst last season. We have Spitz and Colledge to battle at LG, Lang will be stayin a tackle either way IMO. Also the draft is loaded with O-line draft so whos to say we can't pick up a solid O-line prospect later in the draft. Not to mention we could also just wait until next season to draft Pouncey.
If Wilson isn't picked then either Tramon Williams or Pat Lee will start as our nickel back, not Jarrett Bush. And Kyle Wilson hasn't proven any more than Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood have proven. The fact is none of the three have had actual game experience in the NFL to prove anything at all. We don't know if Lee or Underwood can play at this level. We don't know if they can't play at this level either. But don't go and make it sound like Kyle Wilson has proven more than anybody else. He hasn't even been drafted yet.
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For those of you advocating for Pouncey, keep in mind that most scouts have Pouncey comparing negatively to Alex Mack or Eric Wood (last year's first round centers).
So for those of you who want to pick Pouncey at 23 in a very deep draft, would you have been advocates for Wood or Mack at the top of the 2nd last year (you know, if they were there and we had a second round pick)?
Your classic slug that just doesn't get it. Cetidus Hunt.
You can have a different mindset on the offensive line and do fine. Its different for a defensive lineman. All the grief Smith got last year during the offseason and he had a reasonable rookie year. Had to play left and right side and clearly was not a washout. Listening to the offseason complaint list is dangerous, as teams are emphasizing this info to get players to drop to them.
Remember Clifton was knocked for being too passive and average run blocking. Despite his measurables, he went round 2 for a reason. The better question on Davis might be whether he can pass block like Clifton. Davis gets high marks on run blocking from what little I have read.
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
Yea we had 3 DBs put on IR but two of them have shown nothing to prove they can play CB in the NFL and the other is a 35 year old coming off a serious ACL injury. We don't know if Harris will be ready by the start of the season, and even if he is we don't know what type of player he will be. Pat Lee has shown nothing so far. I understand he was drafted in the 2nd round, but thats nothing to me until he actually shows something on the field. Will Blackmon also is coming off an ACL injury so don't expect him just to return to his old self returning kicks right away.
Kyle Wilson is not a luxury pick and is a greater need then a guard IMO. If drafted he would start the season as our nickel DB instead of having Bush out there and would also be our main return man which was one of the worst last season. We have Spitz and Colledge to battle at LG, Lang will be stayin a tackle either way IMO. Also the draft is loaded with O-line draft so whos to say we can't pick up a solid O-line prospect later in the draft. Not to mention we could also just wait until next season to draft Pouncey.
If Wilson isn't picked then either Tramon Williams or Pat Lee will start as our nickel back, not Jarrett Bush. And Kyle Wilson hasn't proven any more than Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood have proven. The fact is none of the three have had actual game experience in the NFL to prove anything at all. We don't know if Lee or Underwood can play at this level. We don't know if they can't play at this level either. But don't go and make it sound like Kyle Wilson has proven more than anybody else. He hasn't even been drafted yet.
Proven...true....but I definitely think Kyle Wilson has shown more talent in college than either Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood. Better prospect than both and to be honest Lee and Underwood have showed little so far in the pro's while Wilson has not had that shot yet.
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
Yea we had 3 DBs put on IR but two of them have shown nothing to prove they can play CB in the NFL and the other is a 35 year old coming off a serious ACL injury. We don't know if Harris will be ready by the start of the season, and even if he is we don't know what type of player he will be. Pat Lee has shown nothing so far. I understand he was drafted in the 2nd round, but thats nothing to me until he actually shows something on the field. Will Blackmon also is coming off an ACL injury so don't expect him just to return to his old self returning kicks right away.
Kyle Wilson is not a luxury pick and is a greater need then a guard IMO. If drafted he would start the season as our nickel DB instead of having Bush out there and would also be our main return man which was one of the worst last season. We have Spitz and Colledge to battle at LG, Lang will be stayin a tackle either way IMO. Also the draft is loaded with O-line draft so whos to say we can't pick up a solid O-line prospect later in the draft. Not to mention we could also just wait until next season to draft Pouncey.
If Wilson isn't picked then either Tramon Williams or Pat Lee will start as our nickel back, not Jarrett Bush. And Kyle Wilson hasn't proven any more than Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood have proven. The fact is none of the three have had actual game experience in the NFL to prove anything at all. We don't know if Lee or Underwood can play at this level. We don't know if they can't play at this level either. But don't go and make it sound like Kyle Wilson has proven more than anybody else. He hasn't even been drafted yet.
Proven...true....but I definitely think Kyle Wilson has shown more talent in college than either Pat Lee or Brandon Underwood. Better prospect than both and to be honest Lee and Underwood have showed little so far in the pro's while Wilson has not had that shot yet.
Well, I don't know. I thought Pat Lee looked pretty good. Underwood was a relative unknown, but if I remember correctly the only reason Lee went so late was because the draft was stock full of top tier CB's that year. And he was put on IR before he got a chance to prove anything last year. Consider the extenuating circumstances when saying that Underwood and Lee haven't proven anything in the pros yet. They haven't had a chance.
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