What are your expectations for the 2010 Packers?

[Tony Oday]

Baring a major injury bug I expect the following:

QBs- AR have another MVP type year 4,000 yards 35 TDs and in the low teens for picks. Better skills at the dump off pass and the usual "slipperyness" in the pocket.

Matt Flynn to have another developing year as a number 2 QB

RBs: Grant- another solid year with 1200+ yards 10 TDs and develop as a better reciever out of the backfiled.

B Jack-do you want to be a Packer? This is the year you take hold of the number two spot with both hands and show why you were drafted.

Number 3 guy to be one of the most debated positions on the team

WR: Jennings has had a year to develop as a number one guy. He has seen what can be thrown against him as other teams gameplan for him and this year he adds 20 catches to his '09 total. This will also be helped by the emergence of the big man Finley.

Driver-late season drops are a thing of the past as he shows the young bucks on the team why he is da man...yeah I used da man

Jones, Nelson: who wants it? We need these two to step up their game. Both have the ability so time to show it.

TE: DAMN I AM EXCITED ABOUT THESE GUYS!!!! Lee will step it up as the number two guy so he can get a starting gig out there somewhere. Finley...STAY HEALTHY!!! If he does he is going to be the number 1 TE in the NFL next year...write that down...Havner is going to push Lee for time and this will enhance both of their '10 campaigns

OL: Tauch and Clifton...the last charge of the two imortals...this is really their last year, go out with a bang...AR is going to be on the isotoners comercials touting these guys Wells keeps the haters at bay and starts again starting a 100 page debate on him again hehe. College doesn't get his "due" and gets pissed and breaks the blocking sled no really...he is out to prove that a second rounder would have been a steal. Lang, Barbre, Giocomini and EDS...well no freaking idea! Sitton well he will just be a solid guy. Overall I think with another training camp under their belt and 3 vets on the line this group gels like Kiper's hair and forms a shield around AR!

DL: Sky is the damn limit here. Raji...2nd year...you know what to do now do it. Pickett...well you have done it since you got here. Jenkins...play those 12 games like you mean it. Harrell...bye...Jolly...cash money millionaire after he BLOWS IT UP this year, he will get a pick six...

LBs: Mathews...sophmore slump he only gets 15 sacks...ugh! Its okay CM we will love it! Hawk shows for the first time why he is the stud we drafted. He plays with reckless abandon BLOWING UP FBs...Chillar and Barnett will be solid...Pops could be the last run for this motor guy...Brad Jones decides...hmmm I like being a stud LB and loses the sack competition with CM by 4.

DBs: Woodson shows that there is room for improvement for him...yeah Harris learns the nickleback role well and actually thrives covering the third WR. Tramon develops into that 2nd CB we need. Blackmon and Bush get hurt or cut. Collins has a down year after a large contract. Mays comes in and starts from day one.

Packers go 10-6 wild card team, win two playoff games and fall in OT to the new overtime rules!

needless to say I am excited to watch the Pack this year. I think the defense will be AMAZING...I mean look what they did with only one year under Da' Dom. The Offense will attack and be amazing from the start and only give up 23 sacks all year.

Have some fun with it! What are all your thoughts about our team!?

[packrulz]

I think they can do better than that looking at their schedule:
Green Bay Packers
Home: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Dallas Cowboys, New York Giants, San Francisco 49ers, Buffalo Bills, Miami Dolphins

Away: Chicago Bears, Detroit Lions, Minnesota Vikings, Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Atlanta Falcons, New England Patriots, New York Jets

I'm guessing 11-5.
TT has got to find a LT in this draft for the future, also CB/S, OLB, RB, & QB for depth, I don't expect any starters from the draft. The defense has to learn how to stop spread offenses, I think that requires a better pass rush.

[RashanGary]

I think the Packers are the best team in the division, so I'm predicting we win the division. 10, 11, 12 wins, whatever it takes, I think we'll take it this year.

I'll have to see how the draft and offseason shake out before I get into how far we'll go in the playoffs. If our depth is better, I might predict SB this year.

[Fritz]

It's weird how much a team's fortunes are now tied to injuries. Have injuries always played such a huge role? Or were backups better when there were fewer teams?

[sepporepi]

Or were backups better when there were fewer teams?

I think it is more the free agency. Before the good teams were often really really good with backups often better than the starters from bad teams.

So injuries did not change the relative quality of the teams so radically as today. Today (with the cba) you can simpy not afford keeping all the backups that would be starters on many other teams.

So each team has a big drop of performance at most positions if the starter gets hurt. Or you are lucky/good and have a young, unproven player who really steps up (think Grant, T.Williams) if given the opertunity.

[Bretsky]

I think GB and MN may be the two best teams in the NFC next year

[CaptainKickass]

Same expectations as every year....win the damn Superbowl.

:P

[RashanGary]

Ascending Talent

Greenway, Edwards, Peterson, Rice, Robison, T Jack, T Johnson, Sullivan, Harvin, Loadholt, Allen, Brinkley. . . .

2 - legit stars
2 - Borderline probowlers or better
8 - Serviceable NFL players, possibly better than serviceable

That's 3 per season. Pretty good, especially considering how few picks they've had.


Rodgers, Collins, Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, Jennings, Spitz, Jolly, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall, Bishop, Crosby, Nelson, Finley, Sitton, Flynn, Raji, Matthews, Lang, Q Johnson, B Jones


2 - legit stars (Collins, Rodgers)
4 - borderline probowlers or better (Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Sitton)
16 - Serviceable NFL players, possibly better.

That's 5.5 per season.



It appears the Packers have more ascending talent than the Vikings.


Aging talent that each team would suffer badly if they lost

Pat Williams and Brett Favre are two aging players the Vikings would hurt badly if they lost.

Chad Clifton and Charles Woodson are two aging players the Packers would hurt badly if they lost.

I'd say that part is a push.



Wildcard

Both the Vikings and Packers have some young players that haven't shown much to date. There is always a chance that one of these players, the light goes on. The Packers have more of these types of players being developed. I give the Packers a slight edge here.

Injuries go both ways, so that's a push.



If you asked me, just looking at young ascending talent and old, decending talent, I'd say the Packers look like a team on a sharp rise. The Vikings just had a great draft. If not for that, I'd say they're decending. Because of that, I think they look to stay about the same.


If I had to grade each team last year, I'd give the Vikings and 9 of 10 and the Packers a 7.5 of 10. If I had to guess, I think the Packers will be a slightly better team than the Vikings in 2010. A great draft from either side or some unlucky injuries could easily swing it. Bottom line, the games are going to have to be played, but I like the guys we have. I like our chances!! I think our division is pretty good as a whole too. Lions finally look to be in good hands. Long term, the Bears might suffer for their decisions, but short term they got better. Packers and Vikings look like contenders. Nothing should come easy.

[Tony Oday]

Ascending Talent

Greenway, Edwards, Peterson, Rice, Robison, T Jack, T Johnson, Sullivan, Harvin, Loadholt, Allen, Brinkley. . . .

2 - legit stars
2 - Borderline probowlers or better
8 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 3 per season. Pretty good, especially considering how few picks they've had.


Rodgers, Collins, Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, Jennings, Spitz, Jolly, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall, Bishop, Crosby, Nelson, Finley, Sitton, Flynn, Raji, Matthews, Lang, Q Johnson, B Jones


2 - legit stars (Collins, Rodgers)
4 - borderline probowlers or better (Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Sitton)
16 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 5.5 per season.



It appears the Packers have more ascending talent than the Vikings.


Aging talent that each team would suffer badly if they lost

Pat Williams and Brett Favre are two aging players the Vikings would hurt badly if they lost.

Chad Clifton and Charles Woodson are two aging players the Packers would hurt badly if they lost.

I'd say that part is a push.



Wildcard

Both the Vikings and Packers have some young players that haven't shown much to date. There is always a chance that one of these players, the light goes on. The Packers have more of these types of players being developed. I give the Packers a slight edge here.

Injuries go both ways, so that's a push.



If you asked me, just looking at young ascending talent and old, decending talent, I'd say the Packers look like a team on a sharp rise. The Vikings just had a great draft. If not for that, I'd say they're decending. Because of that, I think they look to stay about the same.


If I had to grade each team last year, I'd give the Vikings and 9 of 10 and the Packers a 7.5 of 10. If I had to guess, I think the Packers will be a slightly better team than the Vikings in 2010. A great draft from either side or some unlucky injuries could easily swing it. Bottom line, the games are going to have to be played, but I like the guys we have. I like our chances!! I think our division is pretty good as a whole too. Lions finally look to be in good hands. Long term, the Bears might suffer for their decisions, but short term they got better. Packers and Vikings look like contenders. Nothing should come easy.

Agree with most of it but the declining players...if they somehow lose Favre or he reverts to "old" Favre that team will be lucky to win 9 games.

[RashanGary]

They were a playoff team without Favre. They're a good team regardless, but they're really good when he's healthy and on the top of hsi game. He still has it, at least in spurts. I think QB is the ultimate reason they can't win it though. Favre hasn't been able to handle a full season two years in a row. He almost made it last year, but broke down at the end. He's at an age where it drops off fast. Id on't think Tjack is good enough. If our team gets better like it appears to be, I agree with you, QB (with our without FAvre) looks like the tipping point for why we're better.

IT's two heavyweights and our QB is 26 years old, great and finishes better than he starts. Theirs is 40 year old, great for large chunks, but unable to finish a season strong. QB is our edge.

[sharpe1027]

Ascending Talent

Greenway, Edwards, Peterson, Rice, Robison, T Jack, T Johnson, Sullivan, Harvin, Loadholt, Allen, Brinkley. . . .

2 - legit stars
2 - Borderline probowlers or better
8 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 3 per season. Pretty good, especially considering how few picks they've had.


Rodgers, Collins, Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, Jennings, Spitz, Jolly, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall, Bishop, Crosby, Nelson, Finley, Sitton, Flynn, Raji, Matthews, Lang, Q Johnson, B Jones


2 - legit stars (Collins, Rodgers)
4 - borderline probowlers or better (Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Sitton)
16 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 5.5 per season.



It appears the Packers have more ascending talent than the Vikings.

An interesting way to look at it. I like the different approach, but I'm not sure that it is fair to call Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall "ascending." I think "plateauing" could just as easily be used to describe any of those guys. Did any of them really improve last year compared to two years ago? Maybe Hawk, but two years ago was a down year for him.

[ThunderDan]

They were a playoff team without Favre. They're a good team regardless, but they're really good when he's healthy and on the top of hsi game. He still has it, at least in spurts. I think QB is the ultimate reason they can't win it though. Favre hasn't been able to handle a full season two years in a row. He almost made it last year, but broke down at the end. He's at an age where it drops off fast. Id on't think Tjack is good enough. If our team gets better like it appears to be, I agree with you, QB (with our without FAvre) looks like the tipping point for why we're better.

IT's two heavyweights and our QB is 26 years old, great and finishes better than he starts. Theirs is 40 year old, great for large chunks, but unable to finish a season strong. QB is our edge.

The Vikings were a playoff team in 2008 but I know TJack and Sage can't win the SF game, at best split with the Packers and 2 or 3 others. Without BF the Vikings go 8-8 to 10-6 last year. BF Played great in 2009 was a huge difference maker. The Vikings didn't seem to be able to get their running game on track like in 2008.

[RashanGary]

Ascending Talent

Greenway, Edwards, Peterson, Rice, Robison, T Jack, T Johnson, Sullivan, Harvin, Loadholt, Allen, Brinkley. . . .

2 - legit stars
2 - Borderline probowlers or better
8 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 3 per season. Pretty good, especially considering how few picks they've had.


Rodgers, Collins, Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, Jennings, Spitz, Jolly, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall, Bishop, Crosby, Nelson, Finley, Sitton, Flynn, Raji, Matthews, Lang, Q Johnson, B Jones


2 - legit stars (Collins, Rodgers)
4 - borderline probowlers or better (Jennings, Finley, Matthews, Sitton)
16 - Players that have shown something that should keep improving

That's 5.5 per season.



It appears the Packers have more ascending talent than the Vikings.

An interesting way to look at it. I like the different approach, but I'm not sure that it is fair to call Poppinga, Hawk, Colledge, B. Jackson, J Jones, K Hall "ascending." I think "plateauing" could just as easily be used to describe any of those guys. Did any of them really improve last year compared to two years ago? Maybe Hawk, but two years ago was a down year for him.

Tjack, Tyrell Johnson and Brinkley were weak spots too, but I gave a few guys the benefit of the doubt. I guess that last group should be titled, serviceable NFL players, possibly more.

[sharpe1027]

Tjack, Tyrell Johnson and Brinkley were weak spots too, but I gave a few guys the benefit of the doubt. I guess that last group should be titled, serviceable NFL players, possibly more.

I can agree on that new title.

[Brandon494]

I'll let you know after the draft.