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    Re: WHY OH WHY didnt we make this trade?!

    He's nothing special as a WR, but for only a 5th round pick I would have liked to have seen whether he could have spiced up the Packer's return game.

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    • #3
      Re: WHY OH WHY didnt we make this trade?!

      Originally posted by sharpe1027
      He's nothing special as a WR, but for only a 5th round pick I would have liked to have seen whether he could have spiced up the Packer's return game.
      TRUE on the WR but what kind of a return guy can we get with a 5th rounder?
      Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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      • #4
        i don't think we have a roster spot for a wr that doesn't have any wr skills

        we already have talented guys buried on the practice squad waiting for a spot

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        • #5
          Originally posted by red
          i don't think we have a roster spot for a wr that doesn't have any wr skills

          we already have talented guys buried on the practice squad waiting for a spot
          He can take Swain's spot, or one of the three FBs. He's probably as much WR as Swain anyway. I realize that Swain has "potential," but he's also got the potential not to make the team.

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          • #6
            Considering that Ginn's career punt return average isn't even close to Blackmon's, and his career kickoff return average is slightly less than Jordy Nelson's, how would he help the Packers return game????

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Patler
              Considering that Ginn's career punt return average isn't even close to Blackmon's, and his career kickoff return average is slightly less than Jordy Nelson's, how would he help the Packers return game????
              He's a decent return man who stays healthy? And he does get about 30 to 40 catches a year. He's hardly a "horrible" WR, he's just not the stud they thought they drafted. He's still a servicable 4th wr, possibly a 3rd if he gets proper training.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Patler
                Considering that Ginn's career punt return average isn't even close to Blackmon's, and his career kickoff return average is slightly less than Jordy Nelson's, how would he help the Packers return game????
                By being a big-name former top 10 pick. Duh. Don't you realize how much greener the grass is outside of Green Bay?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by packerbacker1234
                  Originally posted by Patler
                  Considering that Ginn's career punt return average isn't even close to Blackmon's, and his career kickoff return average is slightly less than Jordy Nelson's, how would he help the Packers return game????
                  He's a decent return man who stays healthy? And he does get about 30 to 40 catches a year. He's hardly a "horrible" WR, he's just not the stud they thought they drafted. He's still a servicable 4th wr, possibly a 3rd if he gets proper training.
                  I don't know, is he a decent return man? They basically took him off punt returns after his rookie year (just 12 in 32 games since then) and on kickoff returns he averages 23 yards.

                  I don't think he would be much of an improvement on returns or as a receiver. At least based on what he has done so far.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by get louder at lambeau
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    Considering that Ginn's career punt return average isn't even close to Blackmon's, and his career kickoff return average is slightly less than Jordy Nelson's, how would he help the Packers return game????
                    By being a big-name former top 10 pick. Duh. Don't you realize how much greener the grass is outside of Green Bay?
                    You got that right!

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                    • #11
                      Also, considering that the Niners pick before we do in the fifth round, and the Niners offered up a fifth round pick for Ginn, we would have to outbid the 49ers and offer more than a 5th round pick to get Ginn. The Dolphins could really care less which NFC team they sent him to, they'll just take the best offer they get, which wouldn't have been our fifth round pick.
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                      • #12
                        Last year Ginn had 24.9 yds/kick return and Jordy had 25.4, a difference of .6 yards. Ginn had two TDs and Jordy had none. Personally, I'd take the TDs and give up .6 yards.

                        Blackmon has better stats for punt returns, but when Jordy had to step in he was terrible.

                        I can't tell you that he would be better than Nelson or Blackmon for sure, but I'd think he'd at least be competitive. I'm not going out on a limb to say that I'm pretty sure that he'd be more useful as a WR than Swain.

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                        • #13
                          I'd take Ginn in a second for a fifth

                          Stats aside, the guy IS a threat on special teams to go to the house. We don't have that.

                          He'd be a nice last WR and ST demon.

                          With that being said, I don't think I'd give a 4th for him and as somebody pointed out the Whiners have a better 5th round pick than we do.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sharpe1027
                            Last year Ginn had 24.9 yds/kick return and Jordy had 25.4, a difference of .6 yards. Ginn had two TDs and Jordy had none. Personally, I'd take the TDs and give up .6 yards.

                            Blackmon has better stats for punt returns, but when Jordy had to step in he was terrible.

                            I can't tell you that he would be better than Nelson or Blackmon for sure, but I'd think he'd at least be competitive. I'm not going out on a limb to say that I'm pretty sure that he'd be more useful as a WR than Swain.
                            ...and in about 100 kickoff return before last year Ginn had no TDs, and just a 22 yard average, so what does that prove?

                            Personally, I would take the guy who gets 20-30 yards every kickoff with no TDs over the guy who gets 15-25 and a TD every couple years.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Patler
                              Originally posted by sharpe1027
                              Last year Ginn had 24.9 yds/kick return and Jordy had 25.4, a difference of .6 yards. Ginn had two TDs and Jordy had none. Personally, I'd take the TDs and give up .6 yards.

                              Blackmon has better stats for punt returns, but when Jordy had to step in he was terrible.

                              I can't tell you that he would be better than Nelson or Blackmon for sure, but I'd think he'd at least be competitive. I'm not going out on a limb to say that I'm pretty sure that he'd be more useful as a WR than Swain.
                              ...and in about 100 kickoff return before last year Ginn had no TDs, and just a 22 yard average, so what does that prove?

                              Personally, I would take the guy who gets 20-30 yards every kickoff with no TDs over the guy who gets 15-25 and a TD every couple years.
                              I agree with evrything that you said about Ginn. However a 5th!!! That in my opinion is worth taking a look. Great signing by SF.

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