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  • Jason Taylor to Jets!

    Jets have a good looking team this year, and I have to think JT as a third down specialist will help them.

    'phins fans can't be happy. This guy has been the face of their franchise for some time, and he had a pretty good homecoming last year.

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    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

  • #2
    Are the Jets the new Redskins ???

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    • #3
      Originally posted by mission
      Are the Jets the new Redskins ???
      No, because they actually mix it up.

      There team is built through solid FA/trades as well as some good drafting. Things like Sanchez, and that one corner... leon washington - all in house drafted guys. The skins use to trade everything away for folks, the jets do a bit of both. They have a nice team too. REALLY great defense, and possibly the best offensive line in all of football.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by mission
        Are the Jets the new Redskins ???
        well, they were in the AFC championship last year. offseason moves have added Cromartie opposite Revis (have fun throwng at that duo) and now Taylor to a defense that was already tops in the league without them, Ladanian Tomlinson to an already very solid backfield behind a great line, and Santonio Homles to a WR core that people forget also added Braylon Edwards last year (who i think is going to be much improved after an offseason and much more time to learn the offense). that's a lot of plusses added to an already very good team. if they're the skins, it might be circa 1983 as long as Sanchez plays like he did last year. regardless, can't wait for the HBO hard knocks to get rolling to see this team and how the personalitites mix on screen.

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        • #5
          Tomlinson for Jones is the one substitution that doesn't help them IMO. But they seem to have everything else in place to make a strong run at winning their division and even getting homefield advantage for the playoffs. The big question mark is, does Sanchez's development continue smoothly or does he have a sophomore slump?

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          • #6
            There is no such thing as a 'solid FA'. That's just a myth. The only time a free agent is valuable is when no one else wants them and they are available at a bargain basement price.

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            • #7
              Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
              Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
              this close to a year long suspension
              Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
              Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
              of how good the jets ol is

              who else??

              Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
              together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

              Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

              They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mission
                They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that
                Rex is a pretty strong Alpha Male. I didn't think they were that great last year, but it's amazing what motivation can do. The whole city of NY went ballistic. I don't know if it was the same when the Giants made their run.

                I don't remember them renaming Manhatten, though.

                I think Rex will keep most of the problem children in line.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mission
                  Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
                  Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
                  this close to a year long suspension
                  Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
                  Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
                  of how good the jets ol is

                  who else??

                  Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
                  together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

                  Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

                  They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that
                  you're right, jason taylor sucks, so does cromartie..why? because their own teams didn't want them anymore, that's a solid argument. holmes cost them a 5th rounder, wow. LT as a third down back, what a crappy option to have. basically they added what could be a bunch of talent for not a bunch of huge contracts and no high round picks given up. what morons. just a stupid as adding over the hill Faneca a few years back, dumbasses also signed Jenkins to anchor their D-middle, drafted some QB out of USC that wsn't ready for the big stage. one dumb move after another.

                  you mentioned the redskins in comparison? when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by hoosier
                    Tomlinson for Jones is the one substitution that doesn't help them IMO. But they seem to have everything else in place to make a strong run at winning their division and even getting homefield advantage for the playoffs. The big question mark is, does Sanchez's development continue smoothly or does he have a sophomore slump?
                    i had forgotten they let jones go, i don't like this move either.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by twoseven
                      Originally posted by mission
                      Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
                      Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
                      this close to a year long suspension
                      Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
                      Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
                      of how good the jets ol is

                      who else??

                      Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
                      together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

                      Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

                      They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that
                      you mentioned the redskins, when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.
                      brett favre ?

                      and my entire post above ...

                      i cant stand in the court of law with this stuff but im pretty sure i tried to do exactly what you asked, albeit on my iphone and a bit sloppy.

                      all im really trying to say is that there is a point of diminishing returns... im going on record to say they're subtracting through addition. i cant think of any character problems with faneca and the other lineman they acquired through FA in previous seasons. none of their moves less LT are without questions and reach ... and the LT vs Jones this is a huge questionmark as some of you said.

                      they won't be in the Super Bowl next year and given they made it to the championship game last season, anything less than the big dance will prove me right.

                      alpha male works in the right setting but it can also rub dynamic personalities the wrong way... you start adding other team's castoffs to the mix; some guys who really don't even want to be there and we will see how he's able to manage those egos. he's not exactly belicheck, he doesn't always think before he speaks.[/i]

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by mission
                        Originally posted by twoseven
                        Originally posted by mission
                        Jason Taylor - no offer from Miami. Hates the jets, sad to leave Miami
                        Santonio Holmes - Sb MVP with so many problems he was traded for a 5th round. Talks about wake n bake on twitter even tho he's
                        this close to a year long suspension
                        Antonio cromartie - SD couldn't get rid of him fast enough
                        Lt - I think he's the only decent get her because
                        of how good the jets ol is

                        who else??

                        Anyway... You don't hodge podge a roster
                        together. This is the same team that traded for Brett favre.

                        Jump on the bandwagon all you want and say they were a champ game team before this so now they're super legit. I don't buy it... You just don't jump on every "opportunity" out there and expect them to pay off.

                        They will be strong but not without problems, guarantee that
                        you mentioned the redskins, when's the last time they were worth a shit on any level yet they are the ones who continue to add FAs year after year and get no better. the jets were drafting #4 overall just four years ago, now look at them, they've gotten better each of the last 4 seasons. not exactly the team to direct the conversation towards. who's jumping on their bandwagon? i can see pretty clearly that they have made a lot of good decisions in the last few offseasons. i should trash them? put forth some evidence that they have not made some good moves first.
                        brett favre ?

                        and my entire post above ...

                        i cant stand in the court of law with this stuff but im pretty sure i tried to do exactly what you asked, albeit on my iphone and a bit sloppy.

                        all im really trying to say is that there is a point of diminishing returns... im going on record to say they're subtracting through addition. i cant think of any character problems with faneca and the other lineman they acquired through FA in previous seasons. none of their moves less LT are without questions and reach ... and the LT vs Jones this is a huge questionmark as some of you said.

                        they won't be in the Super Bowl next year and given they made it to the championship game last season, anything less than the big dance will prove me right.

                        alpha male works in the right setting but it can also rub dynamic personalities the wrong way... you start adding other team's castoffs to the mix; some guys who really don't even want to be there and we will see how he's able to manage those egos. he's not exactly belicheck, he doesn't always think before he speaks.[/i]
                        the same guy that had them at 8-3 and fresh off kicking the patriots ass before his bicep gave way? how did favre and his finally surgically repaired healthy arm look last year? nice argument.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mission
                          anything less than the big dance will prove me right.
                          i would imagine they too would feel they fell short of expectations seeing as how they were one game away last year. again, you are picking the wrong team to criticize concerning how they have handled their business in the last four years. pick someone else, like the Cowboys or the Skins. the Cowboys are notorious for spending the money on the big FAs that will be the difference, have they even won a playoff game since the 90s yet? maybe one last year?

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                          • #14
                            It is pretty clear that Ryan's shit worked last year. They way overachieved. Will it continue? No idea, his shit always sounded hollow to me. bragging vs. confidence...

                            Bringing in some common sense free agents to take a shot seems prudent to me. Why not?

                            I totally disagree that missing the SB makes this season a failure. Quite the opposite actually. Continued progress and another playoff berth where they play well, get the younger players ready for this in the future. It starts a pattern. The "pattern" leads to the SB.

                            If they were dumping young promising guys for older established FA's I'd agree that's stupid, but they aren't. Maybe they are sacrificing a few young development positions, but for a shot? I think it's worth the risk.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by twoseven
                              Originally posted by mission
                              anything less than the big dance will prove me right.
                              i would imagine they too would feel they fell short of expectations seeing as how they were one game away last year. again, you are picking the wrong team to criticize concerning how they have handled their business in the last four years. pick someone else, like the Cowboys or the Skins. the Cowboys are notorious for spending the money on the big FAs that will be the difference, have they even won a playoff game since the 90s yet? maybe one last year?
                              I was criticizing how they've handled THIS offseason so far, not that their GM is the worst thing ever. i like their aggression/mentality as an organization (maybe im jealous?), i just think they bit off more than they can chew given the specific situation of each acquisition. It's a slippery slope.

                              the team that is good, that is dominant on defense, was not built pre-draft this offseason, I'll tell you that.

                              and i completely forgot about the the brett favre torn biceps excuse... if he was so hurt, he should have put his "record" on the shelf for the betterment of his team. anyway you want to slice it, they didn't make the playoffs -- the move didn't work out for them.

                              it's kind of like in poker, and making moves at pots because you're in good position. you're going to get it most of the time but it only takes someone calling you once to lose your whole stack if you get a tiny bit carried away.

                              obviously final predictions are just that and i could be wrong... the core of that team is already there, who knows what dynamic these changes will really bring. the potential is definitely there, tho..

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