The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread

[Gunakor]

Okay, Tarlam's post answered it.

You think he's a jerk.

All right.

Nick Collins demonstrated perfectly well how to go about it. So Did Jennings and even Grant, who held out, showed class doing it. Everybody knows it's a business.

Colledge thinks he's better than he actually is. Nothing wrong with that, but shouting it out loud is pretty stupid.

I fully agree with you here Tar. It is stupid, and there were much better ways to go about it. But is that alone worth getting rid of him in favor of a lesser player at the position? Aren't we trying to win football games? Keep the best 53, right?

[pbmax]

You wouldn't even want him as a backup if someone beats him out for the starting job?

I'm with RG. He's as much Packer People as was Javon Walker.

RG was talking about Colledge. Colledge has been as involved with the community and public relations as any player. He IS Packer people, even if you think he should be cut. He does all the videos for Packers.com

He may be mad at the team now, but he is no wonderlic Walker.

[red]

Is Selvish Capers is still out there if we're looking for the OL smorgasboard

at this point it's a dart board

Be happy with a special teams ace

selvie is still there too

[pittstang5]

Anyone have anything on Lindsey Witten from Conn. Listed as a DE, but can't find anything on him...Can he switch to OLB.

Strengths:
An impressive athlete. Has the size and athleticism to play as a defensive end in a 4-3, or outside linebacker in a 3-4. A hard worker on and off the field. A scrappy player that holds up against bigger offensive linemen better than you would expect considering his size.
Weaknesses:
Limited experience; didn't a starting role until his senior year. Strength is marginal . Much better as a pass rusher than in run defense.
Comments:
Younger brother of Bills safety Donte Whitner. Witten is an intriguing prospect who could be a steal if he falls to the 3rd or 4th round. His limited experience gives teams reason to question his ability to play at the next level, but there's no denying his production as a senior. He may need some time to develop and bulk up a little, but could certainly earn a starting role in a year or two.

Nice...I'll take him!

[swede]

Okay, Tarlam's post answered it.

You think he's a jerk.

All right.

Nick Collins demonstrated perfectly well how to go about it. So Did Jennings and even Grant, who held out, showed class doing it. Everybody knows it's a business.

Colledge thinks he's better than he actually is. Nothing wrong with that, but shouting it out loud is pretty stupid.

I didn't mean it to sound sarcastic. We invest emotionally in our teams as a kind of cathartic hobby. We look for certain characteristics in our team that we can identify with and be proud of. We like the way some players carry themselves. We get irritated by the actions of others. I think, for whatever reason, we have a sharp recollection of Colledge's football blunders and dumb statements and do not remember so well the good things he has done.

Colledge's off-season blabbing was probably not meant for the ears of the local fans but they made it all the way back to us.

Whatever. We can do better.

[pbmax]

I'd be fine if Lang moves out to tackle. Then in place of Barbre and Giacomini, we have Lang and Bulaga.

Inside, Spitz can back up all three positions. Colledge can sitll start until we find something better and Newhouse/Deitrich will be the nice workable prospecs.

I hope Colledge gets cut during training camp.

LOL, he's been a starter for us for a few years now. You wouldn't even want him as a backup if someone beats him out for the starting job?

Inconsistent at best. Lack of upper body strength still an issue.

Which proves how much you have been paying attention. Upper body is his strong suit. He needs a better anchor and to not lunge at D lineman. His problem is with his feet, legs and butt.

[rbaloha1]

more on newhouse from cbs

01/20/2010 - EAST-WEST SHRINE RISERS: OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU: He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

Overview

The three-year starter at left tackle is expected to shift inside to guard at the professional level. Ever since stepping into the starting lineup, Newhouse has been a model of consistency and a dominant force in the trenches, earning All-Mountain West Conference honors three consecutive seasons.

The highly intelligent blocker, who is a double major, comes from a football-rich family.

His father, John, played football at the University of Houston and was part of three Cotton Bowl teams (1977, 1979, 1980). His cousin, Robert Newhouse, is a former Dallas Cowboy fullback great (1972-83). He also has other cousins who played football at Baylor (Reggie Newhouse) and Rice (Rod Newhouse).

Newhouse was a standout blocker during his two-year football career at Lake Highlands High School, where he earned first-team All-District 10-5A honors. He was named the District Offensive Line MVP as a senior, while also being chosen Lake Highlands' Most Outstanding Offensive Blocker.

In addition to his exploits on the gridiron, Newhouse lettered in track & field, as well as weightlifting. He was the 2006 UIL Texas State shot put champion and competed in power-lifting, earning a third-place finish in the 2005 championships. He was very active on campus at Lake Highlands, where he was a member of the Horticulture Society and Japanese Club.

Newhouse enrolled at Texas Christian in 2005, where he was the only true freshman to earn a letter on offense. He played behind Wade Sisk at right tackle, producing 10 knockdown blocks coming off the bench.

In 2007, Newhouse shifted to left offensive tackle, registering 76 knockdowns and eight touchdown-resulting blocks for an offense that averaged 386.6 yards per game. He got an opportunity to carry the ball, gaining three yards from that attempt vs. New Mexico. The first-year starter received All-Mountain West Conference honorable mention.

Newhouse continued to man the left tackle position, starting all 13 games in 2008. The second-team All-MWC choice delivered nine touchdown-resulting blocks and again led the team with 88 key blocks that included nine touchdown-resulting hits. The Horned Frogs gained 1,644 of its 2,863 yards rushing over the left side of their line.

2009 was the season that the senior finally gained national notice. He posted 14 touchdown-resulting blocks among his 106 knockdowns, paving the way for a running attack that amassed 3,114 yards. His performance earned him All-American third-team and All-MWC first-team accolades, as TCU generated 5,937 yards in total offense and scored 498 points, both team season-records.

Analysis

Positives: Newhouse has a thick, squat frame, with a wide chest, long arms, very strong hand punch (more so with his right than left) with above average quickness, powerful leg drive, strong hands, broad shoulders and a thick chest … Uses his hands with force to jolt and shock the defender in attempts to control the line of scrimmage … One of the more athletic trap blockers in the draft, he has good body control and flexibility, loose hips, average initial quickness and does a nice job of keeping his hands inside his frame to battle counter moves … Quick coming off the snap, getting his hands up into the defender's chest to gain advantage, leverage and sustain … Has the agility to play the guard position at the next level, as he has a strong concept for angling and shows good plant-&-drive agility to follow the ballcarrier to the cutback lanes … Has above average hand speed, showing the ability to fire off the snap with explosiveness … With his field vision, he can easily locate stunts and blitzes … Displays good balance and body control on the short pull, taking proper angles to get to the linebackers at the second level … Good position blocker with fluid flexibility and knee bend … Has the ability to wall off and screen, doing a nice job of rolling his hips on contact … Plays with leverage and at a proper pad level, delivering powerful arm swipes to prevent defenders from getting into his body … Sinks his hips, mirrors the defensive linemen, bends his knees properly and extends his arms well to make the reach block … Works well in combination with the other linemen to maintain the rush lanes and shows flexibility and balance working toward the edge to shut down the pass rush … With his excellent balance and wide base, he can easily maintain position at the line of scrimmage and is very effective driving his man off the first level … Shows good body control and hip snap to get in front on end-around, as his hand strength allows him to lock on and control the defender … When working in-line, he handles combo blocks effectively and works well with the tackles in neutralizing the blitzes off the edge.

Negatives: Has very good arm reach, but his hands are not evenly proportioned (right one is 10 1/4-inches in width/left one is 9 1/2) and he does become right-hand dominant because of this … His size is a little shorter than what most teams look for in a left tackle and will more likely shift inside to guard … While he shows nimble feet and a good burst working into the second level, he sometimes gets his feet too narrow running long distances and can be tripped up … This results in him slipping off some of his blocks when working in space, but he shows the ability to recover and take good angles … On the rare occasions that he drops his head in pass protection, he will then tend to play some on his toes, but he will then recover, sink his hips and do a decent job of mirroring his man … Despite his strong hand punch, he will do more grabbing that shocking and jolting the defender as he starts tiring later in games.

Compares To: RANDY THOMAS, ex-Washington -- Newhouse should have little problem adjusting to blocking in-line. He was often used to lead the charge on end-arounds and works well with the other blockers to widen the rush lane. He is a powerful sort, yet also has very good balance and quickness for an offensive lineman. For a team that stresses zone blocking, this nimble athlete should fit in nicely.

Sounds like a perfect fit for the zbs. Good at trapping and powerfully built -- the antithesis of Colledge.

[pbmax]

I don't really get the hatin' on Colledge.

He's had some bad games, but he's had games with some awesome zone blocks that turned into touchdowns. I remember more games that we didn't talk about him that ones where we ripped on him.

Certainly he could be upgraded.

He'd be a good back-up I guess.

Always whining about his contract. Refused to sign tender. Makes too many mistakes. A%^ho)@

One offseason spring with two comments about his contract. One positive and one negative (reportedly - no one has the tape). You make a convincing case in your own head, but in reality.

[Gunakor]

more on newhouse from cbs

01/20/2010 - EAST-WEST SHRINE RISERS: OG Marshall Newhouse, TCU: He lined up all along the offensive line this week, turning his man out of the hole, setting quickly in pass protection and generally out-working his man whether playing inside or outside. The 6-3, 326-pound former Horned Frog projects to guard at the next level, but scouts value his versatility to slide over to either tackle spot if needed. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

Overview

The three-year starter at left tackle is expected to shift inside to guard at the professional level. Ever since stepping into the starting lineup, Newhouse has been a model of consistency and a dominant force in the trenches, earning All-Mountain West Conference honors three consecutive seasons.

The highly intelligent blocker, who is a double major, comes from a football-rich family.

His father, John, played football at the University of Houston and was part of three Cotton Bowl teams (1977, 1979, 1980). His cousin, Robert Newhouse, is a former Dallas Cowboy fullback great (1972-83). He also has other cousins who played football at Baylor (Reggie Newhouse) and Rice (Rod Newhouse).

Newhouse was a standout blocker during his two-year football career at Lake Highlands High School, where he earned first-team All-District 10-5A honors. He was named the District Offensive Line MVP as a senior, while also being chosen Lake Highlands' Most Outstanding Offensive Blocker.

In addition to his exploits on the gridiron, Newhouse lettered in track & field, as well as weightlifting. He was the 2006 UIL Texas State shot put champion and competed in power-lifting, earning a third-place finish in the 2005 championships. He was very active on campus at Lake Highlands, where he was a member of the Horticulture Society and Japanese Club.

Newhouse enrolled at Texas Christian in 2005, where he was the only true freshman to earn a letter on offense. He played behind Wade Sisk at right tackle, producing 10 knockdown blocks coming off the bench.

In 2007, Newhouse shifted to left offensive tackle, registering 76 knockdowns and eight touchdown-resulting blocks for an offense that averaged 386.6 yards per game. He got an opportunity to carry the ball, gaining three yards from that attempt vs. New Mexico. The first-year starter received All-Mountain West Conference honorable mention.

Newhouse continued to man the left tackle position, starting all 13 games in 2008. The second-team All-MWC choice delivered nine touchdown-resulting blocks and again led the team with 88 key blocks that included nine touchdown-resulting hits. The Horned Frogs gained 1,644 of its 2,863 yards rushing over the left side of their line.

2009 was the season that the senior finally gained national notice. He posted 14 touchdown-resulting blocks among his 106 knockdowns, paving the way for a running attack that amassed 3,114 yards. His performance earned him All-American third-team and All-MWC first-team accolades, as TCU generated 5,937 yards in total offense and scored 498 points, both team season-records.

Analysis

Positives: Newhouse has a thick, squat frame, with a wide chest, long arms, very strong hand punch (more so with his right than left) with above average quickness, powerful leg drive, strong hands, broad shoulders and a thick chest … Uses his hands with force to jolt and shock the defender in attempts to control the line of scrimmage … One of the more athletic trap blockers in the draft, he has good body control and flexibility, loose hips, average initial quickness and does a nice job of keeping his hands inside his frame to battle counter moves … Quick coming off the snap, getting his hands up into the defender's chest to gain advantage, leverage and sustain … Has the agility to play the guard position at the next level, as he has a strong concept for angling and shows good plant-&-drive agility to follow the ballcarrier to the cutback lanes … Has above average hand speed, showing the ability to fire off the snap with explosiveness … With his field vision, he can easily locate stunts and blitzes … Displays good balance and body control on the short pull, taking proper angles to get to the linebackers at the second level … Good position blocker with fluid flexibility and knee bend … Has the ability to wall off and screen, doing a nice job of rolling his hips on contact … Plays with leverage and at a proper pad level, delivering powerful arm swipes to prevent defenders from getting into his body … Sinks his hips, mirrors the defensive linemen, bends his knees properly and extends his arms well to make the reach block … Works well in combination with the other linemen to maintain the rush lanes and shows flexibility and balance working toward the edge to shut down the pass rush … With his excellent balance and wide base, he can easily maintain position at the line of scrimmage and is very effective driving his man off the first level … Shows good body control and hip snap to get in front on end-around, as his hand strength allows him to lock on and control the defender … When working in-line, he handles combo blocks effectively and works well with the tackles in neutralizing the blitzes off the edge.

Negatives: Has very good arm reach, but his hands are not evenly proportioned (right one is 10 1/4-inches in width/left one is 9 1/2) and he does become right-hand dominant because of this … His size is a little shorter than what most teams look for in a left tackle and will more likely shift inside to guard … While he shows nimble feet and a good burst working into the second level, he sometimes gets his feet too narrow running long distances and can be tripped up … This results in him slipping off some of his blocks when working in space, but he shows the ability to recover and take good angles … On the rare occasions that he drops his head in pass protection, he will then tend to play some on his toes, but he will then recover, sink his hips and do a decent job of mirroring his man … Despite his strong hand punch, he will do more grabbing that shocking and jolting the defender as he starts tiring later in games.

Compares To: RANDY THOMAS, ex-Washington -- Newhouse should have little problem adjusting to blocking in-line. He was often used to lead the charge on end-arounds and works well with the other blockers to widen the rush lane. He is a powerful sort, yet also has very good balance and quickness for an offensive lineman. For a team that stresses zone blocking, this nimble athlete should fit in nicely.

Sounds like a perfect fit for the zbs. Good at trapping and powerfully built -- the antithesis of Colledge.

He has to prove it first.

[green_bowl_packer]

Bills snatched Danny Batten the OLB we had in from south dakota, there's another one gone.

[swede]

Selection is...James Starks

[Gunakor]

Packers take James Starks, RB, Buffalo with pick #193

[steve823]

James Starks

Strengths
Starks has nice height, a good build and impressive overall size for a running back. Has the necessary speed to be a threat on the outside at the next level. Exhibits good acceleration and burst through the hole for a bigger back.

Weaknesses
Does not run with the power we’d like to see for his size. Starks has some straight line to him and isn’t going to shake a lot of tacklers. Durability is a concern after missing his senior year with injury.

[Sparkey]

Selection is...James Starks

Strengths:
A smart, patient runner. Has a nice burst when he hits the hole. Decent agility; has the ability to make defenders miss. Leads by example. A hard worker that coaches speak very high of.
Weaknesses:
Missed entire 2009 season with a shoulder injury. Has a tall, lean frame; needs to bulk up to improve durability. Not a physical runner; looks to avoid contact but doesn't have the speed to be elusive at the next level.
Comments:
Starks was a promising prospect entering his senior year, but his shoulder injury is a major concern. His body type would raises durability concerns even without a history of injuries, but the shoulder injury makes is a serious issue. He has a high ceiling if he can stay healthy and bulk up, but he also has a very low floor.

[packers11]

OVERVIEW

Starks missed the 2009 season after undergoing surgery to repair his shoulder. He is a converted running back and had consecutive thousand yard seasons in 2007 and 2008. He has a little wiggle to him as he hits the hole and can veer off course after getting to the second level to make the first man miss but is not a top cut-back runner. He has a good burst through the hole and shows the speed to take it all the way once he gets to the open field.

Ryan Grant Jr?