The Official 2010 NFL Draft Thread

[retailguy]

RG undersells him by remembering only the bad plays. No numbers or context. He is below average pass blocker and an above average run blocker. The problem is, there is no one better than that at LG on the team with the possible exception of Lang.

Look, I'm not a "stats guy". Never will be. And I believe in this case that the "stats" don't matter.

Colledge has all the talent in the world. He should be a pro bowl player by now. He isn't and never will be. His inconsistency is absolutely maddening.

You said "upper body" was his strength. I agree, it should be, but it isn't. His footwork can be precise one play and horrible the next. He should beat 95% of the folks he blocks in terms of upper body strength. He doesn't. He gets beat consistently there.

Rodgers had a bout with "happy feet" at the beginning of last season. Why? Because he never knew when Colledge (et al) were going to get stoned. He never knew where the hit was coming from.

I hold Colledge responsible for that. This OL has always been inconsistent. Colledge is the poster boy for that. He needs to go, and Spitz needs to follow him. Next season for sure, unless things change.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I thought that was a good pick, as was Marshall Newhouse the OT. But why did we get a TE, even if he does have potential?

Because Spencer Havner is easily replaceable and has limited upside.

[steve823]

I think Myron Roell can play in the NFL

Myron Roell
T Holliday or the best punt/kick returner on the board

Even if he doesn't turn out to be a great player.. he will provide more safety depth along with Burnett. Hopefully that would mean Martin and Bush would never see the field again :P

[Bretsky]

dam

there goes T Holliday to the Texans

[mission]

more starks highlights (#19)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPDRf8NkSXI

[Bretsky]

I think Myron Roell can play in the NFL

Myron Roell
T Holliday or the best punt/kick returner on the board

Even if he doesn't turn out to be a great player.. he will provide more safety depth along with Burnett. Hopefully that would mean Martin and Bush would never see the field again :P

DITTO............Let's start getting on the wagon !!!!!!!!!!!

Packer Person and all

[pbmax]

Rodgers had a bout with "happy feet" at the beginning of last season. Why? Because he never knew when Colledge (et al) were going to get stoned. He never knew where the hit was coming from.

Colledge has enough challenges that we don't need to invent them. Rodgers went from tremendous footwork in the pre-season to happy feet after his RT got torched for 12 sacks or so in the first three games. Colledge fell down after he was moved to tackle in the Vikings game.

[RashanGary]

My favorite player so far, for where they were taken, is this James Starks. He looks really interesting. I'd pick the TE, but he's got the character concerns.

My least favorite player is Newhouse. I don't like a workout warrior who's tape doesn't measure up to his ability.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Starks kid passes the eyeball test. He's big, pretty fast, and can catch the ball. Watching game and combine highlights, it looks like he has excellent acceleration off one cut.

[steve823]

I think Myron Roell can play in the NFL

Myron Roell
T Holliday or the best punt/kick returner on the board

Even if he doesn't turn out to be a great player.. he will provide more safety depth along with Burnett. Hopefully that would mean Martin and Bush would never see the field again :P

DITTO............Let's start getting on the wagon !!!!!!!!!!!

Packer Person and all

Agreed. Also, Donovan Warren is a great prospect at corner and I'm not sure why he wasn't chosen..maybe a slow 40? Anyways we've had good luck with corners from Michigan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K73Uu3L-jCw

[Fritz]

Do you all notice that one of the common threads with most of TT's picks is that they test really well on particular drills? Seems like the cone drill is one. Maybe TT is a real big "tests well" guy with certain drills.

Also, my feeling - just that - is that Newhouse looks like one of those really solid picks. Like he could be a steady performer at guard in the NFL.

[rbaloha1]

RG undersells him by remembering only the bad plays. No numbers or context. He is below average pass blocker and an above average run blocker. The problem is, there is no one better than that at LG on the team with the possible exception of Lang.

Look, I'm not a "stats guy". Never will be. And I believe in this case that the "stats" don't matter.

Colledge has all the talent in the world. He should be a pro bowl player by now. He isn't and never will be. His inconsistency is absolutely maddening.

You said "upper body" was his strength. I agree, it should be, but it isn't. His footwork can be precise one play and horrible the next. He should beat 95% of the folks he blocks in terms of upper body strength. He doesn't. He gets beat consistently there.

Rodgers had a bout with "happy feet" at the beginning of last season. Why? Because he never knew when Colledge (et al) were going to get stoned. He never knew where the hit was coming from.

I hold Colledge responsible for that. This OL has always been inconsistent. Colledge is the poster boy for that. He needs to go, and Spitz needs to follow him. Next season for sure, unless things change.

Daryn Colledge was next in sacks allowed with 7½, including four as a fill-in at left tackle.

[retailguy]

Rodgers had a bout with "happy feet" at the beginning of last season. Why? Because he never knew when Colledge (et al) were going to get stoned. He never knew where the hit was coming from.

Colledge has enough challenges that we don't need to invent them. Rodgers went from tremendous footwork in the pre-season to happy feet after his RT got torched for 12 sacks or so in the first three games. Colledge fell down after he was moved to tackle in the Vikings game.

I'm not inventing ANYTHING PB. Colledge has been around long enough he should be a leader on that OL. He's the main guy holding it back. Regardless of the good plays, regardless of the talent, HE is the guy holding it back.

Wells is marginally talented but overachieves, Sitton is budding star, Tauscher, even on one leg is the model of consistency, Clifton is a tough old guy who gives it all on every play. barbre wasn't ready last year, and the disaster sapped his confidence and he may never recover. Lang has incredible potential, and I think he could be the future at RT. Colledge? He's a slacker. He's holding these guys down.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sorry if this was posted already. Sounds like a good kid, fits the one cut zone scheme, good size and speed, can catch. Not strong enough tobe a good pass protector at this point. Sounds like his shoulder is fine. He was working to get back in time for a bowl game, but Buffalo didn't qualify for one.

Inside: Tall, lanky runner who looks like a former quarterback - but doesn't run like one. Shifty runner with good vision through traffic. Lowers his pads to power through defenders when he smells the first down or goal line. Usually falls forward for the extra yard. Will stutter-step to avoid initial tackler in the hole. Secure with the ball inside.

Outside: Perfect for offense using zone or stretch plays. Lets blocks develop and picks out holes or cut-back lanes to explode through. Long strider who lacks lateral quickness, but will explode vertically once in the open field. Carries the ball in his right hand and doesn't switch when running left. Adequate at getting the corner within the offense, but doesn't change directions fast enough to reverse a play on his own.

Breaking tackles: Will go through arm tackles and runs with some lean, but has troubles keeping his feet (looks a bit out of control at times). Keeps feet moving after first contact at the second level, but struggles to push the pile in the middle. Must show his shoulder injury has not lessened his effectiveness as a power runner.

Blocking: Not very physical. Liability as a pass protector, although it's not for a lack of effort. Likes to hit defenders but is just not strong enough to anchor or sustain against them. Hesitates to pick up linebackers on plays where the pocket is moving. Doesn't pick up defenders to aid teammates on the second level.

Receiving: Well-practiced receiver who physically looks the part. Used on swing passes, circle routes and in the slot from motion. Snatches the ball with his hands, adjusting to low and high throws. Will hold the ball loosely when trying to make a move in the open field. Some elusiveness after the catch, but is better running north-south than east-west. May be tried as a kickoff returner at the next level.

Intangibles: No major character issues. Soft-spoken young man who is well-liked by coaches, teachers and teammates. Gives more credit to his linemen than himself. Successful rehab of knee and shoulder injuries will gives scouts reason to like his work ethic.

[rbaloha1]

more starks highlights (#19)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPDRf8NkSXI

Understand why he was drafted at this position. Runs upright and lacks that extra gear.

At this point like Wynn better.