Packer Player Under Investigation In Sexual Assault

[CaliforniaCheez]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A TIME OUT OUT FROM THE STUPIDITY AND UNINFORMED SPECULATION!!

1) The alleged incident did not happen at the condo. The sheriff's spokesperson said it happened earlier.

2) When the other players said they don't know what happened and that they were not there. Stop assuming they witnessed what happened.

3) You have two women in their early 30's who traveled across the state from Milwaukee to be in the area and their versions of events.

4) The unnamed player said the incident was consensual. As pointed out earlier, in you read the law, consent is defined very narrowly and sexual assault is defined very broadly. It is the word of 2 against the word of one.

5) The Sauk County District Attorney is female. There are 4 assistant DA's and 2 of them are female.

6) The Sheriff's office released the names of those not involved to protect them and clear their names.
A report comes in and the Sheriff has to investigate. They did not choose to be involved,

7) Until the facts are known or more information comes out, Let's not have speculations that become rumors that become prejudices.

If Clay Matthews was not involved then he knows nothing about it and what he says on the matter does not matter except he was the liason for Packer involvement with the charity event.

8) Just because black guys get arrested at an extremely higher rate for sexual assault does not mean anything related to this investigation.


Calm down. Have patience.

[Scott Campbell]

WTF else is there to talk about?

[Joemailman]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A TIME OUT OUT FROM THE STUPIDITY AND UNINFORMED SPECULATION!!

1) The alleged incident did not happen at the condo. The sheriff's spokesperson said it happened earlier.

Not sure what spokesperson you're referring to. However, the official police report indicates the alleged assault took place at the condo. It does not indicate what time the assault occurred. http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...n--reports-say


The investigation is expected to be turned over to the DA tomorrow.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95794779.html

Forgive me for reading something as stupid and uninformed as a police report.

[RashanGary]

I never thought they were actual whores but I'm not really shocked after finding out. I think there is an implied experience level that by that age (31 and 33 respectively) pretty woman have enough control and handle on situations involving men (especially young men) that I would guess not to many get tricked and trapped by 23 year old men when they're out on the town. That's not to say it couldn't happen, just the age, what I know of how people mature, I had a hard time envisioning Underwood being able to A. trick them to get them alone and then B. assault them both sexually. They're onto the game, onto what a lot of men want. Even if Underwood is a phycho-brilliant premeditating predator, I think he's going to have a hard time manipulating a couple of 30+ grizzled vets into a position they don't want to be in after meeting them out on the town. They're just not that dumb.

I just was having a hard time envisioning the assault with the context given, but I was also open to being wrong on my hunch.

I would never say it if I was a writer for a paper. I would never say it around a possible victim. . . But on a message board, we discuss these types of situations, bounce possible scenerios around and I gave mine. I think it happens to be based in a good, reasonable understanding of people in those age groups and the logic I used applied really well to the context of early reports of this event. PB's comment about me not being smart enough to pick up garbage, I think it shows more about his intelligence than mine, especially after how it played out, but when I read it, yeah, I thought it was an uncalled for, low blow.

[pbmax]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A TIME OUT OUT FROM THE STUPIDITY AND UNINFORMED SPECULATION!!

As Tim Harris once said: This ain't a tennis match!

Its a message board.

[Joemailman]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95794779.html

Dorner said the two women changed their story at the onset of the investigation, saying at first they were assaulted by multiple people, then saying it was one person.

I have a feeling the fact that they had to change their story will lead to no charges being filed. Underwood will dodge a bullet, at least until he returns home to face his wife.

[pbmax]

PB's comment about me not being smart enough to pick up garbage, I think it shows more about his intelligence than mine, especially after how it played out, but when I read it, yeah, I thought it was an uncalled for, low blow.

I did not question your intelligence, just your ability to infer from limited observation. And I did apologize because it was harsh and out of the blue.

However, it very much remains to be seen who took advantage of who. Not all 31 year old grizzled stripper veterans are smart. Nor do they all look like Julia Roberts. If a scenario plays out like KY has surmised, then youngster Brandon took advantage of the grizzle stripper veterans.

[pbmax]

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/95794779.html

Dorner said the two women changed their story at the onset of the investigation, saying at first they were assaulted by multiple people, then saying it was one person.

I have a feeling the fact that they had to change their story will lead to no charges being filed. Underwood will dodge a bullet, at least until he returns home to face his wife.

From this report:

Police said seven Packers were at a condo at the Wilderness Resort Golf Cabins in Lake Delton where a party was taking place and where the two women said the assaults occurred.

However:

Sources said the incident likely happened before the entire group returned to the cabin.

[pbmax]

8) Just because black guys get arrested at an extremely higher rate for sexual assault does not mean anything related to this investigation.

Can you source this?

[Joemailman]

CAN WE PLEASE HAVE A TIME OUT OUT FROM THE STUPIDITY AND UNINFORMED SPECULATION!!

8) Just because black guys get arrested at an extremely higher rate for sexual assault does not mean anything related to this investigation.

Who said it did? Unless I missed something, you're the only one to bring race into this.

[pbmax]

That same article reports that the women traveled from Milwaukee to the area and met the player(s) at a bar. It does not specify if they were patronizing the bar or working at it. It does mention the establishment was Chubby's.

[RashanGary]

KY's scenario makes a lot of sense. Brandon could have easily stiffed them.



But note to all crazy football players. Pay that whore what she asks or she can make life miserable on you.

[vince]

I hadn't seen what Sitton said here earlier in the day This is what was notably absent from Matthews' interview.

http://packersnews.greenbaypressgazette.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100607/PKR01/100607145

I know Underwood is innocent when it comes to any legal issues,” Sitton said. “That’s my personal opinion about that.

[RashanGary]

Yeah, Vince, you were reading way too much into what Matthews didn't say and what he did say.

It's a sensitive topic. The Packers look bad no matter what. They were at a charity event and then this happens. It just sucks, so Matthews was disappointed in how it turned out for his event. I'm sure he was excited about his charity.

[Iron Mike]

Have we spoken on the phone before?

Ask him what he's wearing, PB.

I rarely wear underwear and when I do it's usually something unusual.

Do you have anything in a low rise bikini, possibly mesh?

HaHaHa!!! Nice avatar, Zool.

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