Bigby signs

[sharpe1027]

Can someone inform me what wisdom there was in not signing this tender, say, months ago?

Once he signs, doesn't he loose his RFA status? Contract wise, he had nothing to lose (unless they withdrew the offer, which was unlikely) and everything to gain by not signing.

[Fritz]

at the risk of derailing this thread off the topic of COCK, I would like to say that Bigby is a legitimate starting safety in the NFL....great? Hell no, but you could win with him. That being said if Burnett lives up to the Kool Aid I'll be thrilled if Bigby becomes a luxury item.

I would argue that there is at least one fine member of our community who would argue that Bigby and sucking cock are not different topics at all.

[SkinBasket]

Bigby is a legitimate starting safety in the NFL....great? Hell no, but you could win with him.

At the risk of sounding soft of Cocksucker McStrudle, I have maintained that as long as he is the only player of such limitation on the field, we can hide him adequately against exposure. My biggest problems were when we had Bigby and Poppinga on the field at the same time. No defense can hide that kind of ineptitude.

That being said, finding someone with some kind of skill other than having an unearned reputation for "big" hits and a totally earned reputation for slow feet, stiff hips, bad angles, and injuries would be splendid.

Our best players on defense have been ham-stringed trying to cover up it's deficiencies before. An average player who allows our great players to be unleashed instead of compensating for suck-assedness would be nice.

[Gunakor]

He can play the ball too. I think he had 4 interceptions last year, tying him with Tramon Williams for 3rd on the club. There's more to Bigby's game than simply laying the lumber.

[pbmax]

I am oddly comforted that Bigby is back, and the Packers may still not have a punter or left guard. By the time these positions get fixed, the rest of the team will be old and terrible.

[sharpe1027]

Bigby is a legitimate starting safety in the NFL....great? Hell no, but you could win with him.

At the risk of sounding soft of Cocksucker McStrudle, I have maintained that as long as he is the only player of such limitation on the field, we can hide him adequately against exposure. My biggest problems were when we had Bigby and Poppinga on the field at the same time. No defense can hide that kind of ineptitude.

That being said, finding someone with some kind of skill other than having an unearned reputation for "big" hits and a totally earned reputation for slow feet, stiff hips, bad angles, and injuries would be splendid.

Our best players on defense have been ham-stringed trying to cover up it's deficiencies before. An average player who allows our great players to be unleashed instead of compensating for suck-assedness would be nice.

I won't argue about how good or bad Bigby is, but last year he was much better than our alternatives. Hopefully Burnett will change that.

[Fritz]

"Cocksucker McStrudle" sounds like a character in a movie set in the 1940's. Probably played by Ned Beatty.

[SkinBasket]

He can play the ball too. I think he had 4 interceptions last year, tying him with Tramon Williams for 3rd on the club. There's more to Bigby's game than simply laying the lumber.

Interceptions which were not created by Atari Bigby. The good news is he caught them, I suppose. Yipee.

[cheesner]

Can someone inform me what wisdom there was in not signing this tender, say, months ago?

Once he signs, doesn't he loose his RFA status? Contract wise, he had nothing to lose (unless they withdrew the offer, which was unlikely) and everything to gain by not signing.

He stood to loose bargaining power if his replacement comes in and does well (which is what happened)

He lost because he missed valuable OTAs and a minicamp. Therefore he isn't as far along as he could be if he came in and practiced. This may result in loss of playing time which in turn costs him negotiating power next year.

Bigby lost a lot in this, I figure.

[get louder at lambeau]

Can someone inform me what wisdom there was in not signing this tender, say, months ago?

Once he signs, doesn't he loose his RFA status? Contract wise, he had nothing to lose (unless they withdrew the offer, which was unlikely) and everything to gain by not signing.

He stood to loose bargaining power if his replacement comes in and does well (which is what happened)

He lost because he missed valuable OTAs and a minicamp. Therefore he isn't as far along as he could be if he came in and practiced. This may result in loss of playing time which in turn costs him negotiating power next year.

Bigby lost a lot in this, I figure.

According to comments by Nick Collins a month or two ago, Bigby has been trying to heal up his recurring ankle problems over the offseason, so I doubt he would have been doing much in OTAs and minicamp anyway. Most veterans who showed up gimpy didn't do much of anything.

[sharpe1027]

He stood to loose bargaining power if his replacement comes in and does well (which is what happened)

He lost because he missed valuable OTAs and a minicamp. Therefore he isn't as far along as he could be if he came in and practiced. This may result in loss of playing time which in turn costs him negotiating power next year.

Bigby lost a lot in this, I figure.

Maybe for next year. This year, though, he had nothing to gain from signing earlier.

I guess it doesn't help his case much, but I figure that if he's going to get beat out, the missed minicamp won't end up be the deciding factor.

[pbmax]

Can someone inform me what wisdom there was in not signing this tender, say, months ago?

Once he signs, doesn't he loose his RFA status? Contract wise, he had nothing to lose (unless they withdrew the offer, which was unlikely) and everything to gain by not signing.

He stood to loose bargaining power if his replacement comes in and does well (which is what happened)

He lost because he missed valuable OTAs and a minicamp. Therefore he isn't as far along as he could be if he came in and practiced. This may result in loss of playing time which in turn costs him negotiating power next year.

Bigby lost a lot in this, I figure.

Its a bit of a gamble, but the Packers have few choices beside Bigby. Even if Burnett looks like the second coming of Ronnie Lott, they still need him. So the risk is low that the tender is withdrawn. In his favor is the chance that they lose someone in workouts to an injury. Then his leverage goes up.

[rbaloha1]

AB shall be regulated to special teams just like Poop.

[NewsBruin]

As I understand it, until Bigby signs the tender, he's not on the roster, the Packers cannot trade him, and he cannot sign with another team.

However, once he signs the tender, he's the Packers' property and can be signed to a longer contract or traded at the team's discretion. Another team can offer higher than the tender AND give the Pack draft picks to swipe him for the season if the Pack doesn't match.

Until Bigby signed, he wasn't part of the team, doesn't have to report or practice (risking injury), and can continue working on a longer contract or sign-and-trade. Once he signs, the Pack has no obligation to provide a longer deal or get a trade.

I can't say I always sympathize with the players (most of the time I do), but if I were in Bigby's shoes, I'd want to take as much time as it took to get a multi-year deal. With Burnett drafted and Bigby's injury status, there's no guarantee 2011 (if there's any football) will be a better year for dealmaking than 2010.

Anyway, Bigby blinked first, signed relatively inexpensively, and I support him as long as he wears the green and gold and doesn't act a fool.

[get louder at lambeau]

With Burnett drafted and Bigby's injury status, there's no guarantee 2011 (if there's any football) will be a better year for dealmaking than 2010.

There are never any guarantees, but if Bigby gets to FA healthy he'll make a bunch of money. Anyone with starting experience gets paid retarded money in FA these days. Antrel Rolle just got $37 mil with $15 mil guaranteed a few months ago.