According to Bedard's blog today, Bigby is having more ankle surgery and might be out for the year. That leaves Burnett as front runner at SS and Derrick Martin as likely 2nd stringer.
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I don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Sounds like the surgery isn't as serious as Bedard made it out to be. Hopefully. If nothing else, I like Bigby as a third safety."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Maybe TT could look for a seasoned ready safety?Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersSounds like the surgery isn't as serious as Bedard made it out to be. Hopefully. If nothing else, I like Bigby as a third safety.
Blackmon = injury. Burnett = inexperienced.
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Yea cause it worked so badly last year with Clay Matthews. I know its a different position but still Bigby is nothing special.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.
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Me too....but Collins was a rookie that started right way.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.
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Well, without Bigby I think we're really missing a safety who's a hammer or a missile in run support. That's traditionally what a strong safety does, but that's decreasingly the case in the modern NFL. Nowadays, offenses are fast and wide open where you really need both your safeties to be able to excel in coverage to be able to consistently stop the pass.
15 years ago, guys like Aaron Rouse and Taylor Mays would have been stars at safety since they're big, can lay the hammer, and can run really fast in a straight line. Nowadays, well... look at Rouse. Nowadays, safeties with CB skills are really valuable, since you can count on them to cover. Look at Antrell Rolle's contract or Earl Thomas's draft position if you need convincing; not only that but the Saints are moving last year's 1st round pick Malcom Jenkins to S.
I would have liked to have Bigby around for run support, but it sounds like it's just a scope so worst case scenario he probably starts the season on PUP and we get him back after week 6.</delurk>
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Yes, but he didn't have a bang-up rookie season. Lots of people ripped on him as a bad pick that first two years.Originally posted by pittstang5Me too....but Collins was a rookie that started right way.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Clay mathews started at safety last year?? Oh wait, even you are admitting that isn't what I said at all...nice comparison though.Originally posted by Brandon494Yea cause it worked so badly last year with Clay Matthews. I know its a different position but still Bigby is nothing special.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Looks like Im not the only one who reads packerupdate.netOriginally posted by Lurker64Well, without Bigby I think we're really missing a safety who's a hammer or a missile in run support. That's traditionally what a strong safety does, but that's decreasingly the case in the modern NFL. Nowadays, offenses are fast and wide open where you really need both your safeties to be able to excel in coverage to be able to consistently stop the pass.
15 years ago, guys like Aaron Rouse and Taylor Mays would have been stars at safety since they're big, can lay the hammer, and can run really fast in a straight line. Nowadays, well... look at Rouse. Nowadays, safeties with CB skills are really valuable, since you can count on them to cover. Look at Antrell Rolle's contract or Earl Thomas's draft position if you need convincing; not only that but the Saints are moving last year's 1st round pick Malcom Jenkins to S.
I would have liked to have Bigby around for run support, but it sounds like it's just a scope so worst case scenario he probably starts the season on PUP and we get him back after week 6.
Anyway while Bigby is a better safety in run supports lets not forget we were #1 in run defense last season. We should be aight in that area without him and hopefully Burnett will help in area Bigby really slacked....pass coverage.
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Might want to go back and reread what I said.Originally posted by bobbleheadClay mathews started at safety last year?? Oh wait, even you are admitting that isn't what I said at all...nice comparison though.Originally posted by Brandon494Yea cause it worked so badly last year with Clay Matthews. I know its a different position but still Bigby is nothing special.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.
Anyway Jairus Byrd (who should have won rookie of the year over Cushing)set a franchise record for the Bills last season with 9 INTs as their starting safety. While I don't expect Burnett to have that type of impact they do have similiar games and its not like Bigby was an all-pro safety. We'll be fine if not better with Burnett....you'll see.
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I hope you are right, I'm not hoping for failure here, but to my experience safeties need a year to learn the cues and calls of the NFL. If Burnett can do that I'd be thrilled.Originally posted by Brandon494Might want to go back and reread what I said.Originally posted by bobbleheadClay mathews started at safety last year?? Oh wait, even you are admitting that isn't what I said at all...nice comparison though.Originally posted by Brandon494Yea cause it worked so badly last year with Clay Matthews. I know its a different position but still Bigby is nothing special.Originally posted by bobbleheadI don't like this at all. I know everyone is on Burnett's jock, but I don't like starting a rookie at safety.
I agree though, Blackman is so athletic, lets hope his skill set translates to safety, and also that Burnett is close to as good as the hype.
Anyway Jairus Byrd (who should have won rookie of the year over Cushing) had 9 INTs for the Bills starting at S as a rookie setting a franchise record. While I don't expect Burnett to have that type of impact they do have similiar games and its not like Bigby was an all-pro safety. We'll be fine if not better with Burnett....you'll see.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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I'd be fine with a healthy Bigby at Safety... but when I say "healthy", I mean the 2007 Bigby that played like he belonged.
That said, I want Burnett to win the job outright... some of the reports I've read have said that he slow to react, lacks instincts, and does a lot of guessing, but I'm hoping he can put it together quickly. Safety really is a tough position to start at as a rookie; but it's been done, and Collins and Barnett make all the calls anyway.
Hell, I believe it was '81 when the 49er's started 3 rookie DB's... Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright (I think)... can't remember the 3rd guy - think that was the year they won their 1st SB??
Too lazy to look stuff up
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