Bye bye Bigby?

[sharpe1027]

according to the JSO Mathews is sucking ass in camp so far,

That's a joke about the JSO's negativity, right? I've only read glowing reports about Matthews so far.

No, their blog had something negative about him today, they actually put him in their "thumbs down" category or whatever they call it. Apparently somebody saw him get stoned several times by Tauscher and the long list of wannabes at backup RT and decided to write home about it. If there is no news JSO will make some.

If Matthews didn't get the thumbs down, then that would have meant that the Oline would have been getting beat. It is pretty difficult to have both sides look great at the same time.

[Joemailman]

If Matthews didn't get the thumbs down, then that would have meant that the Oline would have been getting beat. It is pretty difficult to have both sides look great at the same time.

Exactly. I'd be more worried if Matthews were making Clifton and Tauscher look bad than the other way around.

[Gunakor]

If Matthews didn't get the thumbs down, then that would have meant that the Oline would have been getting beat. It is pretty difficult to have both sides look great at the same time.

Exactly. I'd be more worried if Matthews were making Clifton and Tauscher look bad than the other way around.

Rookie Marshall Newhouse was on the list of guys that beat Matthews. So was Breno Giacomini. That's what worries me a bit.

[swede]

If Matthews didn't get the thumbs down, then that would have meant that the Oline would have been getting beat. It is pretty difficult to have both sides look great at the same time.

Exactly. I'd be more worried if Matthews were making Clifton and Tauscher look bad than the other way around.

Rookie Marshall Newhouse was on the list of guys that beat Matthews. So was Breno Giacomini. That's what worries me a bit.

In telephone booths and 1:1 drills those guys have the advantage.

[mission]

lol @ being worried about CM3



come on

[Gunakor]

lol @ being worried about CM3



come on

Ever heard of a sophmore slump? Matthews wouldn't represent the first nor the last case.

The reports I've read out of camp say that Matthews has been less than impressive. But it's still a month before the season starts, so he's got plenty of time to shake off any rust. I'm not overly concerned.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ever heard of a sophmore slump?

Have you seen him play? Unless he was beefed up on steroids, I don't see how he'll have a sophomore slump. Kid has elite quickness and I don't think I've seen a LB rush the edge with as much bend as he did last year. There were a couple of plays last year where he actually went around and under the OT. Kid is more likely to become an All-Pro than suffer from a sophomore slump, IMHO. It wasn't so much the stats, but what I saw from him. He's big, he's fast, he can rush, he can cover, he's mean, and he wants to be great.

[get louder at lambeau]

lol @ being worried about CM3



come on

Ever heard of a sophmore slump? Matthews wouldn't represent the first nor the last case.

The reports I've read out of camp say that Matthews has been less than impressive. But it's still a month before the season starts, so he's got plenty of time to shake off any rust. I'm not overly concerned.

The last thing I remember reading about him was talking about how many offensive linemen were false starting against him, and expressed amazement that even Clifton and Tauscher were jumping the gun when lining up against him. I think it was a day or two ago. Can't remember who or where.

[Gunakor]

Have you seen him play?

Wow, that's the second time in a week I've been asked that question here @ PR. First time it was Atari Bigby, now it's Clay Matthews. I think I need to put out an APB for the imposter posing as Gunakor in the game threads over the last 2 years, because clearly Gunakor doesn't watch the games and therefore has no business participating in a live game thread. Shame on him.

Kid is more likely to become an All-Pro than suffer from a sophomore slump, IMHO.

I'd agree, except he's looked far from All Pro thus far in camp. The last week is what I am basing my opinion on, not last season. I'm not the only one to share that opinion either. Last season he was outstanding. He hasn't looked outstanding this August. I'm sure he's working his tail off to become that force we all anticipate him being, and perhaps he's one of those guys that can just flip the switch when it matters. But it's not a given. There is reason for concern IMO, and his 2010 performance up to this point has done nothing to alleviate that concern.

[Patler]

I've read comments from Mathews and Greene stating that Mathews would use TC to work on new pass rush moves, because the relative few he had last year would soon be picked up on by good linemen. Could explain why he looks slower, as he works on moves that are not yet natural for him.

Remember, Mathews missed much of TC last year with his hamstring problem. I'm sure there are things he needs to work on. The switch from right to left reverses things. He used to go around and under OTs with outside moves to his right. To do so now is to his left. There will be a period of adjustment.

TC is for learning and perfecting. Especially with young players early in camp, I never get too excited if they have bad days. After all, they are practicing, and should be trying to work on their weaknesses.

[swede]

I've read comments from Mathews and Greene stating that Mathews would use TC to work on new pass rush moves, because the relative few he had last year would soon be picked up on by good linemen. Could explain why he looks slower, as he works on moves that are not yet natural for him.

Remember, Mathews missed much of TC last year with his hamstring problem. I'm sure there are things he needs to work on. The switch from right to left reverses things. He used to go around and under OTs with outside moves to his right. To do so now is to his left. There will be a period of adjustment.

TC is for learning and perfecting. Especially with young players early in camp, I never get too excited if they have bad days. After all, they are practicing, and should be trying to work on their weaknesses.

One thing I saw about three times in defensive walk-throughs was an inside stunt with Matthews. If a quarterback doesn't see CM drop out of sight he will be unhappy to find himself with a face full of 52 coming up the zero hole about 2.2 seconds later.

[Guiness]

Did Mathews run many stunts last year? Most of what I saw was speed/edge stuff, with a LOT of tenacity tacked on the end.

I see a lot of Greene's drive in him, and think whatever money was spent to get him as a coach was well worth it.

[swede]

Did Mathews run many stunts last year? Most of what I saw was speed/edge stuff, with a LOT of tenacity tacked on the end.

I see a lot of Greene's drive in him, and think whatever money was spent to get him as a coach was well worth it.

I had the same question and I was hoping someone would know if stunting Matthews was a decidedly new wrinkle. Also, this business of him being on the left side and Chillar on the right...I sure wish I knew more about the reasoning. We will have to watch and see during the scrimmage tonight how much time Matthews is on the right/'left sides.

[Joemailman]

The reason for moving Matthews to the left when Chillar is in may have to do with run defense. Chillar is the least physical at 236 pounds of all the OLB's, and may not be stout enough to play the run on the strong side.