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    Last year correct me if I am wrong we didn't have Clifton or Tauch in against the purple punks right?

    Being under the deluge of crap in MN listening to the Fan on the way into work I cant handle them saying just because Favre is back they walk the division.

    If Harris is back don't we match up wonderfully against the Vikes this year? Tramon, Woodson, Harris and Underwood matching up against Harvin and Rice. Hawk v Thunderstick. Front 7 against AP. I like our odds on Defense.

    Offense Clifton stops JA. AR doesn't get sacked. Our WR against their D backs no contest and Finley catches 10 for 120 and 3 TDs against their LBs. I mean really the only thing they grade out better at is run defense against Grant and Kicking with Schlongwell
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  • #2
    I just wish it was on MNF this year instead of the Bears/Packers...

    Although one of the Vikings game is a Sunday Night Football game...

    I hope they beat Favre twice... That will surely make him come back for 2011

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    • #3
      It was fairly simple last year. Rodgers was sacked 14 times in the 2 games, Favre 0. If the Packers can do something about this difference, they will have a good shot at beating the Vikings.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #4
        we also don't have to worry about Jolly headbutting anyone. that was a killer penalty

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        • #5
          Re: Packers v Vikings

          Originally posted by Tony Oday
          Last year correct me if I am wrong we didn't have Clifton or Tauch in against the purple punks right?

          Being under the deluge of crap in MN listening to the Fan on the way into work I cant handle them saying just because Favre is back they walk the division.

          If Harris is back don't we match up wonderfully against the Vikes this year? Tramon, Woodson, Harris and Underwood matching up against Harvin and Rice. Hawk v Thunderstick. Front 7 against AP. I like our odds on Defense.

          Offense Clifton stops JA. AR doesn't get sacked. Our WR against their D backs no contest and Finley catches 10 for 120 and 3 TDs against their LBs. I mean really the only thing they grade out better at is run defense against Grant and Kicking with Schlongwell
          Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
          Minnesota Vikings
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          • #6
            Re: Packers v Vikings

            Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
            Originally posted by Tony Oday
            Last year correct me if I am wrong we didn't have Clifton or Tauch in against the purple punks right?

            Being under the deluge of crap in MN listening to the Fan on the way into work I cant handle them saying just because Favre is back they walk the division.

            If Harris is back don't we match up wonderfully against the Vikes this year? Tramon, Woodson, Harris and Underwood matching up against Harvin and Rice. Hawk v Thunderstick. Front 7 against AP. I like our odds on Defense.

            Offense Clifton stops JA. AR doesn't get sacked. Our WR against their D backs no contest and Finley catches 10 for 120 and 3 TDs against their LBs. I mean really the only thing they grade out better at is run defense against Grant and Kicking with Schlongwell
            Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
            Clifton was coming off an injury and was reinjured in that game I believe. You're going down
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #7
              Re: Packers v Vikings

              Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
              Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
              Jared Allen vs. Chad Clifton in his career:

              9/6/2008 - 0 tackles, 0 sacks
              11/9/2008 - 2 tackles, 1 sack (for a safety--which ARod should have thrown away, I believe)
              11/4/2007 - 3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

              Average = 2.3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

              Big difference between that and last year:

              10/5/2009 - 7 tackles, 4.5 sacks
              11/1/2009 - 5 tackles, 3 sacks

              Average = 6 tackles, 3.75 sacks

              Clifton has made him look pedestrian--while the guys last year single-handedly put Allen in the Pro Bowl. He had 7.5 sacks in those two games and 7 sacks in his other 14 games.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #8
                Re: Packers v Vikings

                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
                Jared Allen vs. Chad Clifton in his career:

                9/6/2008 - 0 tackles, 0 sacks
                11/9/2008 - 2 tackles, 1 sack (for a safety--which ARod should have thrown away, I believe)
                11/4/2007 - 3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                Average = 2.3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                Big difference between that and last year:

                10/5/2009 - 7 tackles, 4.5 sacks
                11/1/2009 - 5 tackles, 3 sacks

                Average = 6 tackles, 3.75 sacks

                Clifton has made him look pedestrian--while the guys last year single-handedly put Allen in the Pro Bowl. He had 7.5 sacks in those two games and 7 sacks in his other 14 games.

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                Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman
                  It was fairly simple last year. Rodgers was sacked 14 times in the 2 games, Favre 0. If the Packers can do something about this difference, they will have a good shot at beating the Vikings.
                  Word.
                  All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                  • #10
                    The Packers D will look bad this year as they did last year against the elite QB's. The passrush will be lacking and they will than get picked apart.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by b bulldog
                      The Packers D will look bad this year as they did last year against the elite QB's. The passrush will be lacking and they will than get picked apart.
                      I love your August confidence bull. Ya know we have made a few adjustments to the defense since last year.
                      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                      • #12
                        Re: Packers v Vikings

                        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                        Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                        Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
                        Jared Allen vs. Chad Clifton in his career:

                        9/6/2008 - 0 tackles, 0 sacks
                        11/9/2008 - 2 tackles, 1 sack (for a safety--which ARod should have thrown away, I believe)
                        11/4/2007 - 3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                        Average = 2.3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                        Big difference between that and last year:

                        10/5/2009 - 7 tackles, 4.5 sacks
                        11/1/2009 - 5 tackles, 3 sacks

                        Average = 6 tackles, 3.75 sacks

                        Clifton has made him look pedestrian--while the guys last year single-handedly put Allen in the Pro Bowl. He had 7.5 sacks in those two games and 7 sacks in his other 14 games.
                        Nice post Harv. That performance by Clifton against Allen at KC in 2007 was a thing of beauty.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #13
                          11-1-2009
                          Finley's stat line:

                          REC YDS AVG TD LG
                          0 0 0 0 0
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #14
                            30 yards rushing from Grant isn't going to get the job done. If Rodgers is the leading rusher for the Pack it's over.

                            Also, I said it when the schedule was released: the NFL spared Favre (again) a cold weather game in GB. THe NFL also kept MN largely inside from late Nov through Dec. If I believed in conspiracy theories, these facts would drive me crazy!

                            Finally, the most important game in your season is the home game against the Division rival. You have to win that game. Packers win that gam last year, they get a bye and a home Divisional game. Huge difference. Packers HAVE to beat the Vikings at home. HAVE to.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #15
                              Re: Packers v Vikings

                              Originally posted by mraynrand
                              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                              Originally posted by SMACKTALKIE
                              Interesting predictions. I believe however the last time Jared Allen went up against Clifton he sacked AR once for a safety, forced an illegal forward pass for a safety, and was in Rodgers face all game. In other words Clifton really did'nt fare much better than Lang.
                              Jared Allen vs. Chad Clifton in his career:

                              9/6/2008 - 0 tackles, 0 sacks
                              11/9/2008 - 2 tackles, 1 sack (for a safety--which ARod should have thrown away, I believe)
                              11/4/2007 - 3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                              Average = 2.3 tackles, 0.5 sacks

                              Big difference between that and last year:

                              10/5/2009 - 7 tackles, 4.5 sacks
                              11/1/2009 - 5 tackles, 3 sacks

                              Average = 6 tackles, 3.75 sacks

                              Clifton has made him look pedestrian--while the guys last year single-handedly put Allen in the Pro Bowl. He had 7.5 sacks in those two games and 7 sacks in his other 14 games.
                              Nice post Harv. That performance by Clifton against Allen at KC in 2007 was a thing of beauty.
                              I like how he includes a stat from a totally different line in the first comparison. Allen did not play with the likes of Kevin Williams, Pat Williams, Ray Edwards, LeTroy Guion, or Brian Robison in 2007. His teammates help his play, he helps his teammates play and so on. Either way to write him off, or any other member of the Viking's D Line is a mistake. October 24 is a long way out.
                              Minnesota Vikings
                              NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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