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    1. ILB next to Barnett. Bishop is not the answer. Can Chillar play an entire season at this position? Can Hawk start forcing turnovers? Is Hawk second team?

    2. Tramon Williams. Obviously the dude is going to be picked-on. Against better receivers he is consistently beat.

    3. Nickel db. Maybe its Shields. Underwood makes too many mistakes. Lee is okay but has not stepped-up.

    4. Backup to Grant. Jackson gets hurt and fumbles. The other 2 are unproven in the regular season.

    5. Returners except for Blackmon.

    Omissions or deletions?

  • #2
    pass rush...a good pass rush can make up a lot for an iffy secondary.

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    • #3
      Re: Concerns for 2010 (No Particuluar Order)

      Originally posted by rbaloha
      2. Tramon Williams. Obviously the dude is going to be picked-on. Against better receivers he is consistently beat.
      -1. Tramon is not Woodson or Harris, but he is starting quality. Any CB is going to get beat now and then.

      I think his play this preseason has been spotty, but I think he will be fine this year. The 3rd CB is more of a concern, IMO.
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      • #4
        Right now, the Chillar/Hawk depth chart seems the same as last year. While he didn't come on until the second half versus the Colts, they played nickel as their base versus Manning in the first half.

        If a team is a threat to run, Hawk will get the start in base. If the team is pass dominated, it'll be Chillar and the nickel.

        The only reason for concern is that neither seems to make big plays. They play solid and not much else.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #5
          Re: Concerns for 2010 (No Particuluar Order)

          Originally posted by falco
          Originally posted by rbaloha
          2. Tramon Williams. Obviously the dude is going to be picked-on. Against better receivers he is consistently beat.
          -1. Tramon is not Woodson or Harris, but he is starting quality. Any CB is going to get beat now and then.

          I think his play this preseason has been spotty, but I think he will be fine this year. The 3rd CB is more of a concern, IMO.
          I disagree, I like Tramon but he is not starting quality. He is a nickel back who can start a few games but not someone you want as a starter for awhole season.

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          • #6
            McCarthy named Colledge the starter at Left Guard (just for Philly?). Not a shock, esp. given Bulaga's injury, but Daryn has shown some of the same ability to be beat that he has always demonstrated. He doesn't seem to have taken a new step forward, but perhaps he is back to his 2008 form, rather than the first half of 2009 form.

            And this is how confusion happens (from practice today):

            Tom Silverstein:
            Originally posted by [b
            JSO Live Blog[/b]]Twitter TomSilverstein:
            Here's an odd sight: Breno Giacomini at RG. Not a good sign for his chances of making team. [via Twitter]
            Sunday August 29, 2010 12:24 TomSilverstein

            Twitter TomSilverstein:
            Sorry I goofed Giacomini at RG was scout team. No significance. [via Twitter]

            Press Gazetter's Vandesauce and Demovsky:
            Originally posted by [b
            Press Gazette Live Blog[/b]]Twitter RobDemovsky:
            TJ Lang at left tackle with the starters. He had been a right side guy all camp. [via Twitter]
            Sunday August 29, 2010 12:21 RobDemovsky


            Twitter MikeVandermause:
            Giacomini working at right guard in team run. Not a good sign for him that Lang lining up at right tackle with No. 2s. [via Twitter]
            Who is right? Stay tuned*. McGinn will sort it out.

            * OK, who wants to wait. Silverstein probably overcorrected. It was the scout team so being at Guard wasn't a big deal, but being moved from #2 RT for Lang would be. Esp. on a day Lang also was at LT.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pbmax
              McCarthy named Colledge the starter at Left Guard (just for Philly?). Not a shock, esp. given Bulaga's injury, but Daryn has shown some of the same ability to be beat that he has always demonstrated. He doesn't seem to have taken a new step forward, but perhaps he is back to his 2008 form, rather than the first half of 2009 form.

              And this is how confusion happens (from practice today):

              Tom Silverstein:
              Originally posted by [b
              JSO Live Blog[/b]]Twitter TomSilverstein:
              Here's an odd sight: Breno Giacomini at RG. Not a good sign for his chances of making team. [via Twitter]
              Sunday August 29, 2010 12:24 TomSilverstein

              Twitter TomSilverstein:
              Sorry I goofed Giacomini at RG was scout team. No significance. [via Twitter]

              Press Gazetter's Vandesauce and Demovsky:
              Originally posted by [b
              Press Gazette Live Blog[/b]]Twitter RobDemovsky:
              TJ Lang at left tackle with the starters. He had been a right side guy all camp. [via Twitter]
              Sunday August 29, 2010 12:21 RobDemovsky


              Twitter MikeVandermause:
              Giacomini working at right guard in team run. Not a good sign for him that Lang lining up at right tackle with No. 2s. [via Twitter]
              Who is right? Stay tuned*. McGinn will sort it out.

              * OK, who wants to wait. Silverstein probably overcorrected. It was the scout team so being at Guard wasn't a big deal, but being moved from #2 RT for Lang would be. Esp. on a day Lang also was at LT.
              Colledge has played well and earned the starting spot. Should he fail the backups are good.

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              • #8
                Injuries
                Health
                Injuries
                and
                Injuries
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #9
                  Re: Concerns for 2010 (No Particuluar Order)

                  Originally posted by Brandon494
                  Originally posted by falco
                  Originally posted by rbaloha
                  2. Tramon Williams. Obviously the dude is going to be picked-on. Against better receivers he is consistently beat.
                  -1. Tramon is not Woodson or Harris, but he is starting quality. Any CB is going to get beat now and then.

                  I think his play this preseason has been spotty, but I think he will be fine this year. The 3rd CB is more of a concern, IMO.
                  I disagree, I like Tramon but he is not starting quality. He is a nickel back who can start a few games but not someone you want as a starter for awhole season.
                  Agreed. TW is easily beat by double moves.

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                  • #10
                    I couldn't disagree more about TWill. He started the second half of last season and didn't give up big plays. The problem is that if TWill is starting, the third CB becomes an immediate target.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by falco
                      I couldn't disagree more about TWill. He started the second half of last season and didn't give up big plays. The problem is that if TWill is starting, the third CB becomes an immediate target.
                      This is how I remember it from last season, too.

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                      • #12
                        Hawk/Chillar, Williams, and return man are three of your five biggest concerns?

                        My biggest concerns (in no particular order):

                        1) Nickelback. None of the guys look ready.
                        2) OLB. I had hopes for Jones, but he's been injured. Also concerned about Clay's hammy.
                        3) DL depth. I like the top four with Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, and Neal. I think Harrell has been decent, but will he stay healthy? Unlikely.
                        4) Special teams--mainly the coverage teams and the holder.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Hawk/Chillar, Williams, and return man are three of your five biggest concerns?

                          My biggest concerns (in no particular order):

                          1) Nickelback. None of the guys look ready.

                          Agreed and Noted.

                          2) OLB. I had hopes for Jones, but he's been injured. Also concerned about Clay's hammy.

                          Expect both healthy and ready for game 1.

                          3) DL depth. I like the top four with Jenkins, Pickett, Raji, and Neal. I think Harrell has been decent, but will he stay healthy? Unlikely.

                          The lower draft picks are playing decent and can probably hold gaps. Harrell needs to get in better condition.

                          4) Special teams--mainly the coverage teams and the holder.
                          Coverage is improving but still a slight concern. Holder looked fine against the Colts.

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                          • #14
                            Hawk will be a stud this year...grab the pencil and paper and write that down
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                            • #15
                              Re: Concerns for 2010 (No Particular Order)

                              Originally posted by rbaloha
                              1. ILB next to Barnett. Bishop is not the answer. Can Chillar play an entire season at this position? Can Hawk start forcing turnovers? Is Hawk second team?

                              2. Tramon Williams. Obviously the dude is going to be picked-on. Against better receivers he is consistently beat.

                              3. Nickel db. Maybe its Shields. Underwood makes too many mistakes. Lee is okay but has not stepped-up.

                              4. Backup to Grant. Jackson gets hurt and fumbles. The other 2 are unproven in the regular season.

                              5. Returners except for Blackmon.

                              Omissions or deletions?

                              Hawk will be starting at ILB, he didn't play until 2nd half vs. colts to "save" him because he's a little banged up right now. He's fine. His role isn't to force turnovers on this defense anymore, it's as a lead block stuffer, that's his ILB position. Barnett is meant to make the tackles.

                              Not worried about Williams

                              Not worried about Underwood

                              Not worried about Jackson

                              Kind of worried about the next returner after blackmon.
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