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Grant does with a little help from B Jack...Originally posted by imscott72I guess it's just because I haven't seen him do it. 5 times maybe, but not sure as the primary ball carrier. He's primarily a between the tackles type guy. I don't recall seeing any east/west type stuff from him.Originally posted by PatlerWhy not? He had 5 carries last night and was a prolific runner in college. Set all kinds of rushing records at Shippensburg, with close to 1,000 carries for close to 5,000 yards. He was a big running back that was converted to FB in the NFL, not a former linebacker or TE as many others are.Originally posted by imscott72Kuhn is great at the goal line, but I don't see him carrying the ball 5-10 times a game should something happen to Grant/Jackson.Originally posted by retailguyJohn Kuhn is your third back.Originally posted by imscott72I don't see this either. The days of one back shouldering the entire load are over. Grant couldn't handle that anyhow.Originally posted by SmidgeonDespite what everyone seems to be predicting, the Packers will not keep just two RBs.Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.
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Earnest Graham did it in Tampa a couple of years ago, he's their starting FB now. Brad Hoover did it in Carolina 3 years ago, still a FB for them, I believe.Originally posted by imscott72I guess it's just because I haven't seen him do it. 5 times maybe, but not sure as the primary ball carrier. He's primarily a between the tackles type guy. I don't recall seeing any east/west type stuff from him.Originally posted by PatlerWhy not? He had 5 carries last night and was a prolific runner in college. Set all kinds of rushing records at Shippensburg, with close to 1,000 carries for close to 5,000 yards. He was a big running back that was converted to FB in the NFL, not a former linebacker or TE as many others are.Originally posted by imscott72Kuhn is great at the goal line, but I don't see him carrying the ball 5-10 times a game should something happen to Grant/Jackson.Originally posted by retailguyJohn Kuhn is your third back.Originally posted by imscott72I don't see this either. The days of one back shouldering the entire load are over. Grant couldn't handle that anyhow.Originally posted by SmidgeonDespite what everyone seems to be predicting, the Packers will not keep just two RBs.
It's not that uncommon in a case of injury.
The question that Ted needs to answer is, is John Kuhn more valuable than Lumpkin? I think that answer is clearly YES.
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Because he is WHITE!!! There, I said it.Originally posted by PatlerWhy not?Originally posted by imscott72Kuhn is great at the goal line, but I don't see him carrying the ball 5-10 times a game should something happen to Grant/Jackson.Originally posted by retailguyJohn Kuhn is your third back.Originally posted by imscott72I don't see this either. The days of one back shouldering the entire load are over. Grant couldn't handle that anyhow.Originally posted by SmidgeonDespite what everyone seems to be predicting, the Packers will not keep just two RBs.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Racist bastard..Originally posted by bobbleheadBecause he is WHITE!!! There, I said it.Originally posted by PatlerWhy not?Originally posted by imscott72Kuhn is great at the goal line, but I don't see him carrying the ball 5-10 times a game should something happen to Grant/Jackson.Originally posted by retailguyJohn Kuhn is your third back.Originally posted by imscott72I don't see this either. The days of one back shouldering the entire load are over. Grant couldn't handle that anyhow.Originally posted by SmidgeonDespite what everyone seems to be predicting, the Packers will not keep just two RBs.
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I agree with this.Originally posted by retailguyEarnest Graham did it in Tampa a couple of years ago, he's their starting FB now. Brad Hoover did it in Carolina 3 years ago, still a FB for them, I believe.Originally posted by imscott72I agree.Originally posted by PatlerWhy not? He had 5 carries last night and was a prolific runner in college. Set all kinds of rushing records at Shippensburg, with close to 1,000 carries for close to 5,000 yards. He was a big running back that was converted to FB in the NFL, not a former linebacker or TE as many others are.Originally posted by imscott72Kuhn is great at the goal line, but I don't see him carrying the ball 5-10 times a game should something happen to Grant/Jackson.Originally posted by retailguyJohn Kuhn is your third back.Originally posted by imscott72I don't see this either. The days of one back shouldering the entire load are over. Grant couldn't handle that anyhow.Originally posted by SmidgeonDespite what everyone seems to be predicting, the Packers will not keep just two RBs.
I guess it's just because I haven't seen him do it. 5 times maybe, but not sure as the primary ball carrier. He's primarily a between the tackles type guy. I don't recall seeing any east/west type stuff from him.
It's not that uncommon in a case of injury.
The question that Ted needs to answer is, is John Kuhn more valuable than Lumpkin? I think that answer is clearly YES."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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All data and work is Greg A. Bedard's of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The original page can be found here. Blog was posted on Sept. 4th, accessed on Sept. 4th as well.
Download and conversion to text format completed by pbmax. If there are discrepancies, they are inadvertent and possibly the result of reformatting. The original source should be considered the authority. Download of data in Excel format (Bedard's version) can be found here.
All data through 3 preseason games.
Code:RECEIVERS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 89 Jones, James 78 4 0 0 0 0 0 4.5 87 Nelson, Jordy 81 3 1 1 0 0 1 4.0 80 Driver, Donald 52 3 0 0 0 0 0 3.5 85 Jennings, Greg 27 3 0 0 0 0 0 3.5 13 Chery, Jason 23 1 1 0 0 0 1 2.5 18 Williams, Patrick 52 1 0 0 0 0 1 2.0 19 Gore, Shawn 30 1 1 0 0 0 0 0.0 11 West, Chastin 50 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 17 Dillon, Charles 74 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1.0 16 Swain, Brett 46 0 1 0 0 0 0 -1.0 TIGHT ENDS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 81 Quarless, Andrew 84 2 0 4 2 0 0 5.0 88 Finley, Jermichael 74 3 1 2 1 0 0 2.0 83 Crabtree, Tom 64 0 1 2 1 0 0 0.0 86 Lee, Donald 28 0 0 1 1 0 0 0.0 41 Havner, Spencer 47 0 2 0 0 1 0 -3.0 OFF. LINE Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 73 Colledge, Daryn 84 2 4 7 2 1 0 3.0 62 Dietrich-Smith, E. 119 0 2 7 3 0 0 2.0 70 Lang, T.J. 123 3 2 6 6 0 0 0.0 71 Sitton, Josh 80 1 0 2 3 0 0 0.0 72 Spitz, Jason 48 1 0 1 1 1 0 0.0 75 Bulaga, Bryan 86 2 6 2 0 0 0 -1.0 76 Clifton, Chad 79 3 4 0 2 0 0 -1.5 69 Campbell, Chris 16 0 0 0 1 1 0 -2.0 65 Tauscher, Mark 74 1 4 2 2 0 0 -2.0 78 Barbre, Allen 77 1 1 3 4 1 0 -2.5 67 McDonald, Nick 76 0 1 2 4 0 0 -2.5 63 Wells, Scott 79 1 1 0 3 0 0 -2.5 74 Newhouse, Marshall 90 0 3 0 2 0 0 -4.5 68 Giacomini, Breno 83 1 6 3 4 0 0 -7.5 HALFBACKS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 32 Jackson, Brandon 69 2 1 4 1 0 0 4.5 28 Lumpkin, Kregg 53 2 1 2 1 0 0 2.0 40 Porter, Quinn 36 0 0 1 0 0 -2 -1.0 25 Grant, Ryan 35 0 0 0 0 0 0 -2.5 FULLBACKS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 45 Johnson, Quinn 55 2 1 6 4 0 0 3.0 30 Kuhn, John 62 0 2 5 1 0 0 2.0 35 Hall, Korey 32 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.5 QUARTERBACKS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 12 Rodgers, Aaron 82 13 3 1 0 0 0 12.5 10 Flynn, Matt 99 6 6 1 0 0 0 1.0 7 Harrell, Graham 42 2 4 0 0 0 0 -1.5 DEFENSIVE LINE Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 96 Neal, Mike 73 6 0 1 0 0 0 7.0 91 Harrell, Justin 50 4 2 3 1 0 0 5.0 79 Pickett, Ryan 49 1 0 4 0 0 0 5.0 90 Raji, B.J. 74 4 0 1 0 0 0 3.0 94 Wynn, Jarius 36 3 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 98 Wilson, C.J. 35 1 0 1 1 0 0 1.5 77 Jenkins, Cullen 40 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 93 Toribio, Anthony 25 0 0 1 0 0 0 1.0 95 Talley, Ronald 20 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 LINEBACKERS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 57 Obiozor, Cyril 56 4 0 3 0 0 0 7.0 54 Chillar, Brandon 103 2 2 2 0 0 0 2.0 51 Poppinga, Brady 87 3 1 2 2 0 0 2.0 41 Havner, Spencer 29 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.5 59 Jones, Brad 28 0 0 2 0 0 0 1.5 47 Zombo, Frank 126 4 1 1 3 0 0 1.5 56 Barnett, Nick 55 2 1 0 0 1 0 0.5 49 Francois, Robert 109 2 1 0 1 0 0 0.5 53 Simpkins, Maurice 12 1 0 0 0 0 0 0.5 55 Bishop, Desmond 55 0 0 2 2 0 -1 -1.0 50 Hawk, A.J. 46 1 3 1 1 0 0 -2.5 CORNERBACKS Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 33 Underwood, Brandon 85 2 2 1 0 0 0 1.5 43 Clark, D.J. 41 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 37 Shields, Sam 89 4 2 0 1 0 -3 1.0 21 Woodson, Charles 48 1 0 0 0 0 0 1.0 22 Lee, Pat 75 1 2 0 0 0 1 -1.5 24 Bush, Jarrett 66 1 5 0 0 2 0 -5.5 38 Williams, Tramon 80 0 5 1 0 1 0 -5.5 SAFETIES Snaps Pass+ Pass- Run+ Run- PEN Other +/- 34 Levine, Anthony 43 3 0 0 0 0 0 3.0 46 Peprah, Charlie 55 1 2 1 0 0 1 1.0 27 Blackmon, Will 31 0 1 1 0 0 0 0.5 36 Collins, Nick 75 4 4 0 2 0 0 -1.0 42 Burnett, Morgan 102 3 3 1 3 0 0 -1.5 29 Martin, Derrick 60 1 1 0 0 1 1 -1.5Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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We may grab a depth guy off waivers and cut someone, but Havner is going to be the biggest surprise.Originally posted by PuggerThere is always one every year...but we aren't done yet.Originally posted by SmidgeonSo far, does just Havner being cut count as a WTF? Any keeps so far that qualify?
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