Thompson's Boners

[Scott Campbell]

Signing Marquand Manual.

Cutting Jon Ryan when he did.

[Iron Mike]

I was thinking this was a picture thread.

http://www.awkwardboners.com

[NewsBruin]

I'm really happy with Thompson's work just about all around. He's succeeded on the big deals (defensive line, quarterback). He doesn't fall too much in love with superstars that are past their sell-by date. His timing with extensions is odd, but he's rarely taken by a holdout or a contract that's unfavorable to the Packers. He seems to have another tendancy of not taking someone beneath what he thinks the team needs just to have a warm body on the roster.

The biggest negative that stands out during his tenure is the offensive line. I don't know if its' the players or coaches, but ultimately, it's up to him to keep our running game upright going and our quarterback alive and unmaimed.

I don't fault him for our immediate running back issue, as he's tried to get Lynch and Denver's former practice back (I read that Denver recently called him up after the Packers offered a roster contract), but I do think he overvalued Brandon Jackson and had many opportunities to grab someone's 3rd stringer. I also think he overvalued our starting corners (In terms of durability and availability). Maybe it's not his fault that our guys haven't developed. Most all-pro corners are first-rounders. It's the least "diamond in the rough" likely position.

Overall, I like him, but I'd love to see our front 5 become a better unit and get a better stable of rushers.

[3irty1]

Most all-pro corners are first-rounders. It's the least "diamond in the rough" likely position.

I'm not arguing but is this really known?

[Pugger]

Anti-Polar Bear/Tank would like to remind everyone that had Thompson just drafted Logan Mankins instead of Aaron Rodgers, the Packers would have won 2 Super Bowls by now. Because Logan Mankins=Super Bowl wins. Just look at the Patriots record since they drafted him.

Over on the Bubbler Tank/tinkerbelle as I call him - tries to be cute by calling Rodgers "Erin".

[Pugger]

I understand that everyone hoped for more with Hawk, but given the way even top 10 picks perform (half simply can't start for a decent team), its tough to be upset about a good player who starts, but doesn't stay on the field for nickel because the team has a specialist for that down and distance.

I agree. Looking back with the benefit of hindsight Hawk may have been taken to high but most folks thought he was a good pick at that spot at the time. At least he's actually playing and appears to be assigment sure. We thought Hawk would be CM3 but instead he is your average NFL LB, which isn't the worst thing to be. Poor Brohm was a good college QB but his problem is the pro game just moves too fast for him! He has that deer in headlights look because his head is swimming.

[VegasPackFan]

The Harrell pick was a bit indulgent. He thought he would reach for auy and then later look like a genius. The Hawk pick was not a big mistake. He is a solid citizen and solid player, which brings intangibles to the team at a time when leadership was needed.

GM's will tend to make more mistakes than genius moves. It is the nature of the position. But they only have to make a few genius moves to make the team viable for years and just avoid the HUGE mistake that can set you back a decade.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Harrell pick was a bit indulgent. He thought he would reach for auy and then later look like a genius. The Hawk pick was not a big mistake. He is a solid citizen and solid player, which brings intangibles to the team at a time when leadership was needed.

In retrospect, Harrell was a bid pick, but I cringe when I see things like this. I doubt the thought ever crossed his mind. Besides, it's not like he took somebody that was supposed to go in round 4. Harrell was a consensus late first round pick--with some having him go in the teens (including Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News--who is about as good as it gets when it comes to forecasting the draft).

[mraynrand]

I was thinking this was a picture thread.

http://www.awkwardboners.com

^^^^^^^ This is Iron Mike doin' what Iron Mike does best. It seems there is a website for everything.

[mraynrand]

The Harrell pick was a bit indulgent. He thought he would reach for auy and then later look like a genius. The Hawk pick was not a big mistake. He is a solid citizen and solid player, which brings intangibles to the team at a time when leadership was needed.

In retrospect, Harrell was a bid pick, but I cringe when I see things like this. I doubt the thought ever crossed his mind. Besides, it's not like he took somebody that was supposed to go in round 4. Harrell was a consensus late first round pick--with some having him go in the teens (including Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News--who is about as good as it gets when it comes to forecasting the draft).

People shouldn't try to get in the mind and motivations of people they've never met. I bet Vegas is just trying to get back at someone for abusing him on these threads. Perhaps if he had more going on in his real life, he wouldn't need to run down TT. Probably comes from a bad childhood, bad genes, and a brother who beat the crap out of him in front of his girlfriend. And zits.

[VegasPackFan]

The Harrell pick was a bit indulgent. He thought he would reach for auy and then later look like a genius. The Hawk pick was not a big mistake. He is a solid citizen and solid player, which brings intangibles to the team at a time when leadership was needed.

In retrospect, Harrell was a bid pick, but I cringe when I see things like this. I doubt the thought ever crossed his mind. Besides, it's not like he took somebody that was supposed to go in round 4. Harrell was a consensus late first round pick--with some having him go in the teens (including Rick Gosselin of the Dallas Morning News--who is about as good as it gets when it comes to forecasting the draft).

Well, I am a TT supporter from the very beginning and remain. But I was shocked by that pick and where it happened. Most did NOT have him ranked that high.

[NewsBruin]

Most all-pro corners are first-rounders. It's the least "diamond in the rough" likely position.

I'm not arguing but is this really known?

Totally cool to argue. I remember reading an SI article/column that looked at All-Pro designations over a number of years in relation to the round they were drafted. Corners had the lowest average draft round. I remember it was like all firsts, except for one undrafted.

Now, I'm totally up for believing that all-pro/Pro Bowl is as much hype as production, and that once you get a rep, you keep it long after your stats drop off, but it was a surprising read.

I do totally disagree with the poster who said that GMs have more hits than misses. I think it all depends on the ownership, but there's no position in professional football that's a safe refuge for repeated failure (unless your bosses are the Fords). I guess it depends on how you grade success as a GM -- W-L record, successful signings, trades that look like a "win".

[Bretsky]

Ted's near greatest boner turned out pretty dam lucky for us.

He made a huge pitch to sign Lavar Arrington. Lavar took less money to play for another team. What a blessing. That money was used to sign Charles Woodson. Sometimes luck just falls your way and the Packers and their fans have appreciated how this went down for many years.

Other boners

The no brainers seem to jump out in round two of the draft
Brian Brohm- Never seemed to have it...dammit..why couldn't Ray Rice fall a bit more ?
Pat Lee- Seems lost as well...sadly...both picked in the same draft
Brandon Jackson- He's ok at what he does but not what you look for in the 2nd

[red]

Ted's near greatest boner turned out pretty dam lucky for us.

He made a huge pitch to sign Lavar Arrington. Lavar took less money to play for another team. What a blessing. That money was used to sign Charles Woodson. Sometimes luck just falls your way and the Packers and their fans have appreciated how this went down for many years.

Other boners

The no brainers seem to jump out in round two of the draft
Brian Brohm- Never seemed to have it...dammit..why couldn't Ray Rice fall a bit more ?
Pat Lee- Seems lost as well...sadly...both picked in the same draft
Brandon Jackson- He's ok at what he does but not what you look for in the 2nd

bout freaking time you showed back up around here

[Bretsky]

Ted's near greatest boner turned out pretty dam lucky for us.

He made a huge pitch to sign Lavar Arrington. Lavar took less money to play for another team. What a blessing. That money was used to sign Charles Woodson. Sometimes luck just falls your way and the Packers and their fans have appreciated how this went down for many years.

Other boners

The no brainers seem to jump out in round two of the draft
Brian Brohm- Never seemed to have it...dammit..why couldn't Ray Rice fall a bit more ?
Pat Lee- Seems lost as well...sadly...both picked in the same draft
Brandon Jackson- He's ok at what he does but not what you look for in the 2nd

bout freaking time you showed back up around here

Well.........for you.......since we were in that draft thread together hoping for his name.......we still should've drafted Brandon Flowers over Nelson.....dude may not have ideal size but he's a dam good player