Moss to the Vikings?

[mngolf19]

He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.

He was already in a contract year, and he pitched a huge fit. Nothing has changed about his contract situation, so I'm not as sure as you are that his attitude will change. Maybe, maybe not.

Perhaps that was his strategy to get traded.

[mngolf19]

Couple random thoughts:

1. It's now or never for the Vikes to get their new stadium approved, with the pending expiration of the Metrodome lease. Wilf has shown he will do anything he can to keep the team in the forefront of local media and put the best product possible on the field to help the stadium push.

2. Recalling the article by Brandt a couple weeks ago about how the Favre - Moss deal went down. Anybody else think ol' #4 might have made a request or two to upper management to get Moss? Viking brass seems to be willing to do whatever is necessary to keep their starting QB happy, and are perhaps learning from possible mistakes made by Packer management in a similar situation.

3. The Patriots really look pretty weak on paper now. Brady, Welker coming off a serious injury, some TE potential, and that's about it. No running game to speak of and a porous defense. If they were any team other than the Patriots, they would look like an 8-8 team at best.

This. And it just made the Vikes game vs. NE in a couple weeks that much easier.

[rbaloha1]

This is going to be a dangerous combination -- two instinctive players combined with a solid running game.

CW needs to shadow Moss with Collins over the top.

[mmmdk]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

[ThunderDan]

Couple random thoughts:

1. It's now or never for the Vikes to get their new stadium approved, with the pending expiration of the Metrodome lease. Wilf has shown he will do anything he can to keep the team in the forefront of local media and put the best product possible on the field to help the stadium push.

2. Recalling the article by Brandt a couple weeks ago about how the Favre - Moss deal went down. Anybody else think ol' #4 might have made a request or two to upper management to get Moss? Viking brass seems to be willing to do whatever is necessary to keep their starting QB happy, and are perhaps learning from possible mistakes made by Packer management in a similar situation.

3. The Patriots really look pretty weak on paper now. Brady, Welker coming off a serious injury, some TE potential, and that's about it. No running game to speak of and a porous defense. If they were any team other than the Patriots, they would look like an 8-8 team at best.

I was just listening to NFL radio at lunch and a couple of analysts are already saying this will make NE better. Moss has been taking plays off this year and hasn't been active run blocking on plays. They have had to take Moss out in certain situations and opponents knew that a bubble screen was coming. They will lose some explosive plays but it will now stop defenses from being able to key on certain plays when Moss is either in or out of the game.

The other thing that was brought up was that Moss will not learn the West Coast offense and won't care to. He doesn't want to run the 7 yard slants and crossing patterns anymore. They said that Moss really only runs 3 routes anymore and excels at the 9 and the fade to a jump ball.

[denverYooper]

This is going to be a dangerous combination -- two instinctive players combined with a solid running game.

CW needs to shadow Moss with Collins over the top.

I'll bet that Tramon gets that job. And I'm ok with that!

[mraynrand]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

It probably would take 2-3 weeks. Moss does have the advantage of being able to go up and get balls so it's possible to chuck it up without having that chemistry.

As for NE, yea what's up with that? They are good at trading some of their better players and not sinking. I think they missed Seymour though.

I agree. The 'Chuck it up for grabs/Moss play requires about 10 seconds of preparation. As far as the chemistry part goes, I'm sure Randy will warm up to ol' Brett the first time Favre pulls Moss' boxers down in the lockerroom, After all, Moss is used to that.

[mraynrand]

J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS

Boy after the Moss trade, if ol' Brent were still with the Jets, he'd be sitting pretty looking forward to another ring!

[imscott72]

He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.

He was already in a contract year, and he pitched a huge fit. Nothing has changed about his contract situation, so I'm not as sure as you are that his attitude will change. Maybe, maybe not.

Nobody knows for sure what will happen but he pitched a fit and got his way. Pitching another one doesn't make much sense but who knows.

I can't imagine him being happy there if the Vikings don't give him a deal. If he gets seriously hurt in any of these games without a new contract he's fucked.

[imscott72]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

It probably would take 2-3 weeks. Moss does have the advantage of being able to go up and get balls so it's possible to chuck it up without having that chemistry.

As for NE, yea what's up with that? They are good at trading some of their better players and not sinking. I think they missed Seymour though.

The Pats have a ton of young talent there in guys like Tate and Hernandez. Plus now they have a plethora of draft picks for next year's deep draft class. They're going to be fine.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Re: Deal is official

It's official: Randy Moss is going to the Vikings in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/06/sportsline/main6931953.shtml

How big is the Vikings' locker room at the HHH Metrodome? They may have to expand it to accomodate Moss and Favre's egos. :P

Favre and Moss love each other and are good friends. They WANT to play to together. They are going to destory the league once Rice comes back.

Could you be any more over the top?

LOVE each other
GOOD friends
DESTROY the league

lol shut the hell up......Okay they don't love each other, but I don't see what is over the top in saying they are good friends and will destroy the league. I got in this same agreement about Moss three years ago and I still believe Moss is top talent. Moss and Favre will destroy the league and they are good friends.

They probably don’t click right away but as the season goes on they will be very hard to stop. I actually think they will lose to the Jets Monday night.

I would love a be wrong, but once Rice comes back healthy that offense looks scary good.

[Patler]

Re: Deal is official

lol shut the hell up......Okay they don't love each other, but I don't see what is over the top in saying they are good friends and will destroy the league. I got in this same agreement about Moss three years ago and I still believe Moss is top talent. Moss and Favre will destroy the league and they are good friends.

Are you sure? I thought the story back then was that they didn't really even know each other, but had a mutual interest in playing together. I could be "misremembering" that, however.

Couldn't have been too strong on Moss' part, because he nixed the deal when GB insisted on a two year contract and NE was OK with 1 year.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

So many chicken littles reporting that the sky is indeed falling. I don't buy it. Sure, Moss will have a big game or two, but is he really the difference-maker he once was? The Patriots sure don't think so.

Three years ago when he was traded to the Patriots Moss was a different player than he is today. He was coming off a nice vacation in Oakland without having logged any significant minutes in two seasons(?). Moss wasn't the same player last year in New England when he was "trying". It's ridiculous for me to think that a 12 year vet. simply plays when he wants to anymore. How well did that go for T.O.?

Maybe the Vikings win the Superbowl this year and I'm eating crow, but I don't think so. The addition of Moss certainly didn't improve their offensive line situation. One player won't win the big game. The Vikings will have to come together as a team if they ever want to be able to hoist the trophy. I don't see it.

[ThunderDan]

How long before Favre and Moss get on the same page? Other than Shiancoe, Favre hasn't been clicking with his offense from last year, and now they bring in a new element. I suspect it will be a few weeks before Moss can make a consistent impact, although just having him in the game and running deep might help them.

This isn't the first time NE let go of a player, and everyone wondered why. Somehow it never seems to hurt them.

do they even need to be on the same page? favre just has to launch the ball and let randy go get it.

remember, moss made cassel look the a hall of famer the year brady went down

Are you sure of that?

Moss 2007 98R 1,493Y 23TD
2008 69R 1,008Y 11TD

Cassel 2008 63% 3,693Y 21TD 11Int 89.4 Rating
Brady 2007 69% 4,806Y 50TD 8INT 117.2 Rating

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Re: Deal is official

lol shut the hell up......Okay they don't love each other, but I don't see what is over the top in saying they are good friends and will destroy the league. I got in this same agreement about Moss three years ago and I still believe Moss is top talent. Moss and Favre will destroy the league and they are good friends.

Are you sure? I thought the story back then was that they didn't really even know each other, but had a mutual interest in playing together. I could be "misremembering" that, however.

Couldn't have been too strong on Moss' part, because he nixed the deal when GB insisted on a two year contract and NE was OK with 1 year.

I mean they didn't sign a friends contract or something like that so its not something set in stone. I don't think they have to go get a drink after a game to be considered friends. I think you are way off with them “not really knowing each other in 2007.” But reading articles through the years and watching their interaction after games and how they talk about each other in the media you get the impression that they are friends.

Way Moss refused Green bays offer in 2007 is really another discussion. Favre clams the packers treated him like crap and gave him demands and thats why he didn't come. No one probably will ever really know what went down with 100% certainty. A lot of factors go into trading a player to another team than just simply being friends with the Qb of the other team. If you are claming that a strong friendship would have overcame all other factors like his contract demands for example than I just don’t buy that.