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  • #61
    Originally posted by packerbacker1234
    Originally posted by ThunderDan
    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
    Bingo. If they win the SB, nobody will care for years what they do.
    They know this is it for them, as they just went all-in with this move.
    I don't know about this. It's great that the Packers won Super Bowl 1 and 2 but damn there were a lot of horrible teams in between until Wolfe and MH came to town.

    A good season was defined by beating the Bears. That was it.
    Obviously people are going to eventually care about "winning another one", but not within the current era of the vikings. They have never even won one - so if this move helps put them over the top to win their first, their is no complaining. This sort of trade (dumping a third round pick for a HoF WR with some left in the tank and extra motivation) doesn't wreck them for decades. They didn't give up any picks in the first 2 rounds, and missing a 3rd round pick isn't a franchise killer.

    It was a move the vikings had to make. They need a deep play threat. Now they have it. No need to rush Rice back too soon, and if Rice is good to go like, even the last 4 games of the season, the vikings will be shining like rock stars heading into the playoffs.

    Vikings are all in, they knew it going into this season with the persuit of Brett. The players I think feel it too - when allen, hutch, and longwell go to favre's house and ask him to give it one more try for the players on the team, it's clear the players themselves feel that this is it - this is their best shot to win a SB period.

    I do not blame the vikings in the least bit, and giving up a 3rd rounder is NOT a long term franchsie killer. What is a long term killer is keeping childress as the head coach.
    Funny thing though is that this is not a one year thing. You mean to tell me that an offense with Moss, Rice, Harvin, Peterson, and Shiancoe will not be GREAT even without Favre? This move will make them a contender for a couple more years not just this year. And if people haven't noticed Favre doesn't exactly keep his word. He said he would retireafter this year before the Vikings went and got Moss. If they miss the superbowl, but are very close again, I think Favre comes back yet again and continues this nightmare.
    Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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    • #62
      Deal is official

      It's official: Randy Moss is going to the Vikings in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft:
      Patriots Trade Star Receiver to Minnesota for Third-Round Pick in 2011 Draft, ESPN Reports


      How big is the Vikings' locker room at the HHH Metrodome? They may have to expand it to accomodate Moss and Favre's egos. :P
      Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
      Vince Lombardi

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      • #63
        Re: Deal is official

        Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
        It's official: Randy Moss is going to the Vikings in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft:
        Patriots Trade Star Receiver to Minnesota for Third-Round Pick in 2011 Draft, ESPN Reports


        How big is the Vikings' locker room at the HHH Metrodome? They may have to expand it to accomodate Moss and Favre's egos. :P
        Favre and Moss love each other and are good friends. They WANT to play to together. They are going to destory the league once Rice comes back.
        Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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        • #64
          At one time, Moss was excited to be playing with Tom Brady, too.
          Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
          Vince Lombardi

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          • #65
            This is unfortunate news, but doesn't make them unbeatable. They still have OL issues and a hard pass rush is going to be even more important now. If gramps doesn't have time to get Moss the ball then it won't matter. If we give him 6 or 7 seconds like last year, then he'll torch us again.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
              At one time, Moss was excited to be playing with Tom Brady, too.
              And he has a record setting year. 98 catches, 23tds. He only needs to be excited to play with Favre for one season (this one) for us to be worried. Favre is either done this year, or due to this trade, he is willing for one more shot again next year.

              Bottom line is their window is now. They don't need moss to happy long term, they need moss to be happy right now, and from all indications, he is happy right now, and the dream matchup that they have both talked about in the past (favre and moss together) has finally happened. Moss is playing for a contract - not just from the vikings, but to increase his FA value.

              This is a SCARY thing to happen within the NFC North. If that OL clicks as the season wears on (sort of like how ours does every year) - the vikings will be scary.

              Moss is going to want 10 mil a year, and I am not sure the vikings are going to give that when they feel Rice is a legit #1.

              This is a move to win this year. Anything, a deal, or whatever, is fluff.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by packerbacker1234

                Moss is going to want 10 mil a year, and I am not sure the vikings are going to give that when they feel Rice is a legit #1.
                The stories I'd seen said he wanted $9 million from the Pats, so maybe he'll give someone a discount.
                Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                Vince Lombardi

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                  Originally posted by packerbacker1234

                  Moss is going to want 10 mil a year, and I am not sure the vikings are going to give that when they feel Rice is a legit #1.
                  The stories I'd seen said he wanted $9 million from the Pats, so maybe he'll give someone a discount.
                  There's not going to be a new deal done this year. The Vikes have already said they are not extending anyone's contract and they have several defensive starters in the last year of their deals.
                  All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                  • #69
                    Re: Deal is official

                    Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                    Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                    It's official: Randy Moss is going to the Vikings in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft:
                    Patriots Trade Star Receiver to Minnesota for Third-Round Pick in 2011 Draft, ESPN Reports


                    How big is the Vikings' locker room at the HHH Metrodome? They may have to expand it to accomodate Moss and Favre's egos. :P
                    Favre and Moss love each other and are good friends. They WANT to play to together. They are going to destory the league once Rice comes back.
                    Could you be any more over the top?

                    LOVE each other
                    GOOD friends
                    DESTROY the league

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                    • #70
                      This is just general thoughts to no one specifically.

                      What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB? You think Moss will be happy about that? Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension? If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O? When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls? Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin? What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?

                      I think Minnesota upgraded its offense but are the question marks worth the reward?
                      But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                      -Tim Harmston

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                      • #71
                        Re: Deal is official

                        Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                        Originally posted by Badgerinmaine
                        It's official: Randy Moss is going to the Vikings in exchange for a third-round pick in the 2011 draft:
                        Patriots Trade Star Receiver to Minnesota for Third-Round Pick in 2011 Draft, ESPN Reports


                        How big is the Vikings' locker room at the HHH Metrodome? They may have to expand it to accomodate Moss and Favre's egos. :P
                        Favre and Moss love each other and are good friends. They WANT to play to together. They are going to destory the league once Rice comes back.
                        They're going to remove every other team's narrative?

                        I kid. But I think there's a good chance that this move means Rice is possibly farther away from returning than they'd hoped.
                        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by ThunderDan
                          This is just general thoughts to no one specifically.

                          What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB? You think Moss will be happy about that? Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension? If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O? When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls? Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin? What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?

                          I think Minnesota upgraded its offense but are the question marks worth the reward?
                          What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB?

                          Well, I am guessing they'll be damn glad they have someone that can go up and get the ball since T-Jack isn't very accurate.


                          Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension?

                          Probably not but even he knows you hustle during a contract year. Dogging it will not get you a deal in free agency next year. PFT said he demanded a trade after week one and he got it. He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.


                          If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O?

                          Hard to say. Like I said above, contract year. Being a crybaby isn't your best move with free agency around the corner.

                          When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls?

                          I'm guessing Rice is out till about week 12. Just my gut feeling.

                          Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin?


                          Not buying that one at all. More weapons opens things up for everybody.

                          What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?


                          Then Moss leaves, Favres retire and the Vikings get a 3rd or 4th compensatory pick for Moss.


                          Seems like a win-win to me. Even Viking hater Adam Schein is saying this is an outstanding move for Minnesota and a head scratcher for New England.

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                          • #73
                            you know this wouldn't even be an issue if TT would have just given up a 4th or whatever it was a few years back to get moss in the first place

                            now that moves will once again haunt us

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by ThunderDan
                              This is just general thoughts to no one specifically.

                              What's going to happen if Favre gets knocked out and TJack is the QB? You think Moss will be happy about that? Is Moss really going to be happy without a contract extension? If Favre keeps struglling with a bad ankle and the Vikings go heavy to the run with AP is Randy going to be happy not being the focal point of the O? When Rice comes back is Moss going to be happy sharing balls? Does having Moss on the team hurt the development of Rice and Harvin? What if MN doesn't make the Super Bowl (You have Favre and Moss added to team and can't get it done)?

                              I think Minnesota upgraded its offense but are the question marks worth the reward?
                              Agree that the move gives their offense more potential, even though I don't think it will be anywhere close to last year's juggernaut.

                              Here're the questions I have:

                              Can Randy Moss play RT over Peppers?

                              Will Moss play hard if the Vikings go 1-6/2-5? Their next 4 games are not easy ones and you've got to believe the Jets are going to bring it next Monday. After that, they've got Brett's favorite Cowboys, the Packers, and the Pats. After that the load lightens considerably but it sure looks rough for the next month.

                              How many times will Tramon pick off Favre on throws forced to Moss?
                              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Rastak
                                He'll be a free agent next year so my guess is he's be motivated and work hard like he did when he got to NE.
                                He was already in a contract year, and he pitched a huge fit. Nothing has changed about his contract situation, so I'm not as sure as you are that his attitude will change. Maybe, maybe not.

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