All-around crappy football

[packerbacker1234]

Grant. Enough said.

Our offense has completely changed without him on the field. I think we all underestimated his value to our offensive scheme.

[ThunderDan]

The team we almost beat last week at FedEx field was 2 inches from beating the big bad IND Colts last night. Maybe WASH isn't as bad as we all think.

We need Clay back on defense.

We need to shorten up our passing routes. More 3 step drops. Run delays at the DE on 2nd downs in passing situations. We easily could have turned Bulaga's problem with the bullrush into an advantage by letting the DE get up field and run right into the position he vacated.

All in all on the NFL level there has really been no team that has been dominant week in and week out.

[denverYooper]

Grant. Enough said.

Our offense has completely changed without him on the field. I think we all underestimated his value to our offensive scheme.

Losing Grant certainly hurt our offense but it's not clear whether it's because they won't give 20 carries to another back or not. BJack played pretty well the last 2 weeks but they only gave him 22 carries total in the 2 weeks:
10/115
12/53

Maybe they think that BJack won't be as effective on 20+ carries. I don't know. It's almost as if one of Rodgers or M3 took the loss of Grant as a mandate to get nuts with the passing game.

[Tarlam!]

The team we almost beat last week at FedEx field was 2 inches from beating the big bad IND Colts last night. Maybe WASH isn't as bad as we all think.

I didn't see the game, but I picked them to win, actually. And thee Packers hard fought win over Detroit shouldn't be underestimated, nor the win in Philly. The losses were all winnable heartbreakers. If the Packers get a call or two go their way, the result might be different. Maybe.

One thing is for sure; I don't want the Packers to win the SB next September again.

[denverYooper]

The team we almost beat last week at FedEx field was 2 inches from beating the big bad IND Colts last night. Maybe WASH isn't as bad as we all think.

I didn't see the game, but I picked them to win, actually. And thee Packers hard fought win over Detroit shouldn't be underestimated, nor the win in Philly. The losses were all winnable heartbreakers. If the Packers get a call or two go their way, the result might be different. Maybe.

One thing is for sure; I don't want the Packers to win the SB next September again.

Philly smoked the new NFC darling Falcons yesterday. With Kolb at the helm.

If they're going to get bit by the injury bug, this year seems like a good one for it. With some bodies back in the next few weeks, they're certainly not out of it yet.

[mraynrand]

The team we almost beat last week at FedEx field was 2 inches from beating the big bad IND Colts last night. Maybe WASH isn't as bad as we all think.

I didn't see the game, but I picked them to win, actually. And thee Packers hard fought win over Detroit shouldn't be underestimated, nor the win in Philly. The losses were all winnable heartbreakers. If the Packers get a call or two go their way, the result might be different. Maybe.

One thing is for sure; I don't want the Packers to win the SB next September again.

Philly smoked the new NFC darling Falcons yesterday. With Kolb at the helm.

If they're going to get bit by the injury bug, this year seems like a good one for it. With some bodies back in the next few weeks, they're certainly not out of it yet.

Philly is just a well-run organization and Andy Reid can coach the hell out of a team. But he hasn't won the prize yet either. Lotta luck plays into the Lombardi Trophy

[Tarlam!]

Maybe they think that BJack won't be as effective on 20+ carries. I don't know. It's almost as if one of Rodgers or M3 took the loss of Grant as a mandate to get nuts with the passing game.

Honestly, this baffles me. I just saw the game and he some good gains. And where was Nance?

[pbmax]

Maybe they think that BJack won't be as effective on 20+ carries. I don't know. It's almost as if one of Rodgers or M3 took the loss of Grant as a mandate to get nuts with the passing game.

Honestly, this baffles me. I just saw the game and he some good gains. And where was Nance?

The goal was to get him 18 carries according to the pregame.

[rbaloha1]

Its disappointing that the Packers have enough talent to be at 6-0. Poor decision making on offense and special teams are the culprit.

[Pugger]

Grant. Enough said.

Our offense has completely changed without him on the field. I think we all underestimated his value to our offensive scheme.

+1

Over the last couple of years many fans have dismissed Grant's contributions on our offense even tho last year he was the 7th ranked RB in the league when it was all said and done. I guess you don't know what you have until its gone.

[Pugger]

[quote="Tarlam!"]

Maybe they think that BJack won't be as effective on 20+ carries. I don't know. It's almost as if one of Rodgers or M3 took the loss of Grant as a mandate to get nuts with the passing game.

Honestly, this baffles me. I just saw the game and he some good gains. And where was Nance?[/quote]

Good question. Was he even active yesterday? Is he having problems learning blitz pickups?

[Joemailman]

I'm not surprised Nance isn't playing yet, given that he was not here during training camp. In 2007, MM didn't go with Grant until about halfway through the season. What still mystifies me is that MM doesn't give Jackson the chances Grant would get. The Packers are 7th in the NFL in YPC, but 29th in rushing attempts per game. Jackson is 22nd in the league in rushing yards, but only 7 of the guys ahead of him have a better YPC than his 4.6.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Re: All-around crappy football

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Particularly in the NFC North. Has any team really played well yet in any game?

Lions v bears?

[bobblehead]

Sulky injury card?

Look at our fuckin team. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that injuries are clearly holding this team back is more blind then any TT or MM apologist.

Were they playing well before Mathews, Barnett, Burnett, Tauscher, Finley, Picket and Neal got hurt? Not really.

This team was being "held back" even before the injuries hit it in the last two weeks.

weren't we 3-1 with one game the refs took away from us while being "held back"??

While you and I might disagree on the cause, McCarthy clearly has not yet figured out how to ignite the offense. Even when Finley was available, they were leaving points on the table. Capers seems to be getting about the most that could be expected out of his 2nd team D, but M3 has a way to go.

definately not debating that, but I think the players are more to blame (even with the lack of running calls). JJ fumbling in crunch time against chicago, false starts, holding calls, dropped passes.

I'm not disagreeing with you, and even penalties falls on MM a bit. We definately need to capitalize on offense to have a chance at the playoffs.

PLAYOFFS, PLAYOFFS....

[channtheman]

Grant. Enough said.

Our offense has completely changed without him on the field. I think we all underestimated his value to our offensive scheme.

Absolutely. I was talking to my dad on the phone last night and we both agreed that we had underestimated the impact that losing Grant would have on this team. I would have never imagined this team would not be able to do anything on offense without Grant, but he was a 1200 yard rusher (which was good for number 2 leader in yards since he started behind only AP, right?)