WR Coach disses JJ - Says to Cheat

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lol that is not cheating. Cheating is doing something to get an advantage without being caught. He was telling him to fight for the ball and prevent it from being picked off no matter what. That is not even close to cheating.

[get louder at lambeau]

I used to like James Jones, but this season has been his big opportunity to step up, but instead he's going all Robert Ferguson on us.

Ouch. You gonna take that, Jones?

[Freak Out]

Cheating? That's called smart football.

[ND72]

First day of pads every season, the first thing I teach my lineman is how to "properly" and "legally" hold someone. I always get one kid, "isn't holding illegal?"...you bet, but not if the refs can't see it or can't tell who's holding who.

[channtheman]

At the end of a basketball game when one team that is down 5 with 30 seconds to go they intentionally foul the other team. I see this as a similar strategy. Smart fouling is as good a tactic as any, IMO (I put IMO just so you all know that I'm no expert and this is not fact. It is merely my opinion).

[channtheman]

Same as a defender who's about to get burned long dragging the receiver down.

BTW, I used to like James Jones, but this season has been his big opportunity to step up, but instead he's going all Robert Ferguson on us.

+1.

Jones has failed in a big way this year. He has been targeted the most and done very little with this opportunity.

[mmmdk]

Ugh, I had forgotten all about Fergy but JJ is a close clone this season.

I really like what Robinson says here; I prefer "Tuna" coaching - really tough and determined. Maybe Robinson should refer with a "she" about the wuziness of Packers receivers :P

[ND72]

Ugh, I had forgotten all about Fergy but JJ is a close clone this season.

I really like what Robinson says here; I prefer "Tuna" coaching - really tough and determined. Maybe Robinson should refer with a "she" about the wuziness of Packers receivers :P

I had a Fergy sighting...caught a couple TD's from Jeff Garcia in the UFL or whatever that is.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

At the end of a basketball game when one team that is down 5 with 30 seconds to go they intentionally foul the other team. I see this as a similar strategy. Smart fouling is as good a tactic as any, IMO (I put IMO just so you all know that I'm no expert and this is not fact. It is merely my opinion).

Good example

[Fritz]

Re: WR Coach disses JJ - Says to Cheat

Robinson must be pissed if he publicly disses JJ:

Jones just watched as cornerback Jason Allen cut in front of him and picked off the ball. If Jones had made any kind of attempt to pull Allen down or get his hands on the ball, he would have prevented an interception.

"You have to break that up," Robinson said. "If you have to do something illegal and get a penalty, do that. Anything's preferable to an interception."

On the positive, I think it's great that JJ is being made accountable.

Maybe I'm too old fashioned or just a pussy, but I'm not thrilled when coaches teach their charges to cheat. I know it's a tactical foul, happens in soccer all the time. What do other posters think?

Another question: Could the NFL take any action on those comments?

I don't think it's wrong teaching your players to "cheat" or get a penalty if it's for the good of the team. If you grab the DB instead of allowing him to intercept the ball, yes you are putting the offense back 10 yards, but I'd rather have that then give them the ball.

And no...the NFL can't take any action on that, comments like that are made every week. However, I got an unsportsman like penalty called against me last football season when I told our Linebackers to tackle the other teams 250 pound fullback at the knees....I was PISSED the rest of the night at those refs.

Steroids okay?

[ND72]

Re: WR Coach disses JJ - Says to Cheat

Robinson must be pissed if he publicly disses JJ:

Jones just watched as cornerback Jason Allen cut in front of him and picked off the ball. If Jones had made any kind of attempt to pull Allen down or get his hands on the ball, he would have prevented an interception.

"You have to break that up," Robinson said. "If you have to do something illegal and get a penalty, do that. Anything's preferable to an interception."

On the positive, I think it's great that JJ is being made accountable.

Maybe I'm too old fashioned or just a pussy, but I'm not thrilled when coaches teach their charges to cheat. I know it's a tactical foul, happens in soccer all the time. What do other posters think?

Another question: Could the NFL take any action on those comments?

I don't think it's wrong teaching your players to "cheat" or get a penalty if it's for the good of the team. If you grab the DB instead of allowing him to intercept the ball, yes you are putting the offense back 10 yards, but I'd rather have that then give them the ball.

And no...the NFL can't take any action on that, comments like that are made every week. However, I got an unsportsman like penalty called against me last football season when I told our Linebackers to tackle the other teams 250 pound fullback at the knees....I was PISSED the rest of the night at those refs.

Steroids okay?

That is completely different than the type of on the field cheating I'm speaking about.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I actually think Jones looked good early. He looks healthy. Has been tough after the catch. However, he's had a couple of big-time bonehead plays. (Kind of a recurring them with him throughout his career.) For the amount of targets I think his production is a little disappointing. Of course, Jordy has a case of the dropsies. Our backup WRs have been a bit disappointing, but I still think they are solid. The whole offense is going through a tough stretch, and nobody is picking up the play of others.

[Guiness]

First day of pads every season, the first thing I teach my lineman is how to "properly" and "legally" hold someone. I always get one kid, "isn't holding illegal?"...you bet, but not if the refs can't see it or can't tell who's holding who.

lol at that. I think you might have coached at my uni?

I remember at a full pads practice, an MLB (damn good player, was a terror on the lacrosse field) blowing up and yelling at the coach "do you teach your fucking linemen to hold?????"

Coaches reply: yes, and that'll be ten laps.

[Guiness]

Ugh, I had forgotten all about Fergy but JJ is a close clone this season.

I really like what Robinson says here; I prefer "Tuna" coaching - really tough and determined. Maybe Robinson should refer with a "she" about the wuziness of Packers receivers :P

I had a Fergy sighting...caught a couple TD's from Jeff Garcia in the UFL or whatever that is.

I was going to make a crack about him playing for Omaha...it might be true????

Can't believe Garcia is doing that though. Sad, he had a good long career, with a couple of Pro Bowls, a couple of rings up here in Canada. Why would he drop to that level?

edit: wiki page says he is indeed there, handing off the ball to Ahmed Greene! No word if Fergy's catching passes over there though.

[Bretsky]

Now there our homer views and coming back to earth we just might be realizing

we DON'T have the best 1-2-3-4 punch in the NFL at WR

I'm not sure where we are; but they don't look much over average as a group to me