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  • Week 7 Winners and Losers

    Winners:

    Clifton. This is a no-brainer. Clifton was very effective at neutralizing Jared Allen other than the careless interception intended for Dimitri Nance on a screen. Clifton is a true dancing bear and can handcuff a pass rusher unlike anybody else on the team.

    Bulaga. Held down his side of the line. Fella looks like a player and did a great job of walling off the hold with Sitton on some of our effective running plays.

    Sitton. Kept up his high level of play. A real mauler in the run game, something we'd be really one-dimensional without.

    Pat Lee. I think I like him on returns.

    GJ/JJ. These two almost missed the winners list because of all the 15 yard back shoulder comebacks where they weren't on the same page with AR. They could just as well be AR's fault though. JJ stepped up big and I look for him to continue on this line.

    Donald Lee. Remember that with Favre this guy broke out as a TE. Him an AR never built the same relationship. Today he was great in all aspects of the game.

    Jackson. I didn't see a single zone read play all day and this was obviously in an effort to reduce Jackson's suck. It worked, he looked like a real running back.

    BISHOP!!!!!!!!!! I laughed too at his shenanigans the past two years trying to get on the field but he was been without a doubt the best MLB on the team. Not a 2-down linebacker. Made numerous plays in coverage and stayed assignment sure playing downhill as well. Laid some nasty hits that the Packers have been missing.

    Hawk. I honest feel we've got the best two inside linebackers starting for us right now and that's not a knock on Barnett or Chillar. These guys compliment each other and just play smart.

    Raji. Don't think he left the field yesterday. Its official that he's impossible to push backwards. Great effort in pursuit to chase down the old man and mess up their final 3rd down attempt.

    Nick Collins. This guy is a rare rare athlete. Could be the most physically gifted player in a packers uniform.

    Woodson. Didn't get penalized. That's good enough for me.

    Tramon. Woodson deserves credit too but they kept Randy Moss relatively quiet. Not easy concerning the pass rush at times.

    Brad Jones. Had his best game of the season. Held up at the point of attack and got in there to mangle Favre's ankle which seemed like a turning point.

    Jarius Wynn. I've always liked this guy for his passrush. Yesterday he showed his worth recording his first NFL sack in timely fashion on the Vikings final drive. The coaching staff must hate his run defense though, TJ Lang was playing on the DL instead of him in short yardage situations.

    Losers:

    Colledge. Penalties, and whiffed on an important block of Pat Williams. How does Pat Williams get by you?

    Quarless. I know he "caught" a TD pass but he also fell down on a trick 4th down play that frankly made MM look pretty dumb for calling it in the first place.

    A-Rod? Maybe. He probably played his best game of the year but didn't bury the queens in the 4th quarter when he had two chances. Careless int to JA. The next one wasn't as bad as the announcers would have you believe. GJ was waving for the ball, it was only intercepted on the tip. I don't fault A-Rod with trusting GJ to make a wow play there. Would have been 1-12 in close games had the D not bailed him out! Really shows how dumb that stat is.

    Peprah. Bit hard on some misdirection plays. It'll be nice to have Bigby back although I must admit that Peprah is everything you want in a backup.

    NBC. Didn't tell me about Pickett or Jenkins. Stupid insight on all the questionable plays that were overturned by zebras.

    MM? I mean he won and the offense woke up. And he won a bunch of challenges. But I don't like the 4th down calls. The 4th and 7 fake field goal just doesn't seem like smart football. The other two 4th downs were unimpressive play calls. The timeout at the end of the first half I have a problem with as well. I think you let the queens run out the clock there.
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    If we are talking the Pat Williams whiff near the goal line, that was Wells completely being overrun. Not sure if there was another Fat Pat play you saw.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      I have to put Capers in the winners bracket for coming up with the idea to put Bishop on Moss. Capers knew that Moss takes off plays so he put a LB on him with safety help. So if Moss did take a play off the D wasn't wasting a CB on a WR that wasn't doing anything. Sure enough on the Bishop INT for a TD. Moss walked off the line with Bishop guarding him Favre saw the miss match while getting pressure threw it too Moss. Moss never turned around, INT.

      Another one MM stealing the TE screen from the Lions. That looks good in green and gold.

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      • #4
        I would add C.J. Wilson. Made some plays against the run, and had key pressure on an INT.

        I disagree on the fake field goal. I thought it was a good call. That would have been a 54 yard field goal attempt. It's not MM's fault that Quarless inexplicably fell down as the ball got there.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pack4to84
          I have to put Capers in the winners bracket for coming up with the idea to put Bishop on Moss. Capers knew that Moss takes off plays so he put a LB on him with safety help. So if Moss did take a play off the D wasn't wasting a CB on a WR that wasn't doing anything. Sure enough on the Bishop INT for a TD. Moss walked off the line with Bishop guarding him Favre saw the miss match while getting pressure threw it too Moss. Moss never turned around, INT.

          Another one MM stealing the TE screen from the Lions. That looks good in green and gold.
          Hawk's contract might not force him to leave next year, but Bishop could. He would need to switch ILB spots if Barnett comes back though.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            Re: Week 7 Winners and Losers

            Originally posted by 3irty1
            NBC. Didn't tell me about Pickett or Jenkins.
            I agree with this. They didn't update the status about them or anything Having both of them back is huge because next week we are playing the Jets who will run it down our throats if we don't have them.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Joemailman
              I would add C.J. Wilson. Made some plays against the run, and had key pressure on an INT.

              I disagree on the fake field goal. I thought it was a good call. That would have been a 54 yard field goal attempt. It's not MM's fault that Quarless inexplicably fell down as the ball got there.
              I also liked the call there. If Quarless doesn't slip, that's a backbreaker.

              MM said in his presser that they'd been practicing that with Finley for about a year and a half before he got injured and Quarless has been running it for about 2 weeks now. It sucked that he fell down but he's not the only one who slipped yesterday.
              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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              • #8
                I liked the fake field goal call. Everything was perfect except Quarless. I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.

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                • #9
                  Re: Week 7 Winners and Losers

                  Originally posted by 3irty1
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                  MM? I mean he won and the offense woke up. And he won a bunch of challenges. But I don't like the 4th down calls. The 4th and 7 fake field goal just doesn't seem like smart football. The other two 4th downs were unimpressive play calls. The timeout at the end of the first half I have a problem with as well. I think you let the queens run out the clock there.
                  Agree with a lot of what you said 3irty1, but I thought MM called a pretty good game yesterday. He ran a great mix of runs, screens, and slants against a good D. The only call that sticks out as kind of pigheaded was Kuhn's second 4th and 1 run, although if they gave him the Peterson "he's still going" whistle he might get that. Still, I hated that call there. Other than that, the offense looked to have better rhythm and I feel that M3 had a lot to do with that.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by channtheman
                    I did not like MM calling TO at the end of the half. MM has done this before and it NEVER works out for the Packers. Thank God Chilly was too stupid to take advantage. Both 4th down calls were lame brain typical MM "We are gonna stuff it to them!" even though we are NOT a power running team. I liked the FB dive but it seems teams have caught on. It doesn't work very well anymore. Also, MM whiffed on not challenging Jennings clear first down catch, we went for it on 4th down and failed. At that point, I thought we were going to lose the game, and we nearly did.
                    Forgot about the timeout. Yeah, that was kinda dumb.
                    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                    • #11
                      So Hawk is a winner because he had an INT gift wrapped to him? The guy was missing tackles all night on AP and everytime he did make a tackle he got pushed back atleast 3 yards.

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                      • #12
                        A lot of those guys on your studs list were 1 play wonders.

                        Collins made a great INT but bit on play fakes and allowed the long completion that people were mad at Woodson about. A CB cannot play both sides of a WR and BF threw it to the side were Woodson couldn't get to.

                        I thought Peprah played OK, he made a couple of mistakes and he also sniffed out the bubble screen in the 1st Q and stopped the Vikes from a first down.

                        Bishop and CJ Wilson would be my D studs.

                        I liked what I saw out of the O but I would mostly give the studs to Clifton, Sitton and Bulaga.

                        I really can't think of 1 Packer who laid a big egg last night.
                        But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                        -Tim Harmston

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Brandon494
                          So Hawk is a winner because he had an INT gift wrapped to him? The guy was missing tackles all night on AP and everytime he did make a tackle he got pushed back atleast 3 yards.
                          OK we get it you dislike Hawk!

                          Hawk had 11 tackles and an INT. That's pretty active and around the ball. If Hawk's INT was gift wrapped than Bishop's right in his belly was also. I didn't think Hawk was a stud this week but he is the leading tackler on the team and basically sat out week 1.

                          Hawk has 60 tackles thru 7 games. He is on a 135+ tackle clip.
                          But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                          -Tim Harmston

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Brandon494
                            So Hawk is a winner because he had an INT gift wrapped to him? The guy was missing tackles all night on AP and everytime he did make a tackle he got pushed back atleast 3 yards.
                            That last one was Herrera and AP combined. Al and Chris acted like it was all Purple Jesus. Herrera had AJ engaged and up high, Peterson was able to drive into him with leverage. Hawk hung on and let help arrive. No problem with that play.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joemailman
                              I would add C.J. Wilson. Made some plays against the run, and had key pressure on an INT.

                              I disagree on the fake field goal. I thought it was a good call. That would have been a 54 yard field goal attempt. It's not MM's fault that Quarless inexplicably fell down as the ball got there.
                              MM obviously had a lot of faith in the play. The play was enough for me to drop Quarless onto the losers list. I would have preferred a coffin corner punt but MM obviously didn't have much faith in our current punter. Did we even punt once yesterday? Says a lot if you're scheming around your punter.

                              Originally posted by denverYooper
                              Originally posted by 3irty1
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                              Losers:
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                              MM? I mean he won and the offense woke up. And he won a bunch of challenges. But I don't like the 4th down calls. The 4th and 7 fake field goal just doesn't seem like smart football. The other two 4th downs were unimpressive play calls. The timeout at the end of the first half I have a problem with as well. I think you let the queens run out the clock there.
                              Agree with a lot of what you said 3irty1, but I thought MM called a pretty good game yesterday. He ran a great mix of runs, screens, and slants against a good D. The only call that sticks out as kind of pigheaded was Kuhn's second 4th and 1 run, although if they gave him the Peterson "he's still going" whistle he might get that. Still, I hated that call there. Other than that, the offense looked to have better rhythm and I feel that M3 had a lot to do with that.
                              He usually does call a good game IMO. Yesterday was no exception, I agree.

                              Originally posted by Brandon494
                              So Hawk is a winner because he had an INT gift wrapped to him? The guy was missing tackles all night on AP and everytime he did make a tackle he got pushed back atleast 3 yards.
                              He led the team in tackles and offered above average resistance to a rushing attack that should have buried us. Saw him draw attention from both McKinney and Hutchinson on plays yesterday. Like I said I think he's a better all around linebacker than Chillar. I hope they can figure out a way to resign him.
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