Childress rails against officiating

[ThunderDan]

Officiating clearly favored us in the game, and I understand Chilly's frustrations with a fair game being called. How Shianco's TD was called for a booth review and Quarlesses was not is beyond me. That is straight up upstairs officiating, who se ethe same stuff we do, not making the call. Outside of the fact that the ref that is right there isn't even watching quarless, he is just staring at his feet after he has already hit his back as if they are going to change or something.


There were a few other calls. The one play where clay matthews throws his helemt off before the paly is over - that is also against the rules. I forget how much the penalty is for it, but I think it's a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. He didn't throw it anyone, but you're clearly not allowed to be taking your helmet off on purpose in the middle of a play.

I remember during the game saying several times how nice it was having the regs on our side, so I am sure there were some other more 'obvious" penalities that never got thrown that I smiled about. I think Peprah had a pretty obvious one too if I recall we got no flag for. Meanwhile, the vikings seemed to get flags and such for almost any thing they did in terms of impact situations. Packers, meanwhile, got the benefit of the doubt.

I even debated on that one sideline throw to nelson, where he stopped at 10 yards and AR threw it 30 down field, if that should of been intentional grounding. There was NO ONE in the area. No defender, and certainly not Nelson.

It wasn;t intentional, but it may fit in the rules of being a grounding penalty.


That also concerned me a tad. We gave AR all day to throw and man, he was just not on the same page with anyone and looked dejected the entire 2nd half, like he didn't even want to be there. He also seemed to be ignoring Driver all night long.

On some of those missed throws, Driver was running wide open over the middle. I remember one in particular where he actually got behind hte saftey and had 8 yards on the entire defense, but AR just seemed to be determined to NOT look at him, even though he had all day to make a decision.

Just... odd game overall. I don't feel ANY better about our offense.

By us do you mean the MINNESOTA VIKINGS led by BF?

[Tarlam!]

By us do you mean the MINNESOTA VIKINGS led by BF?

Well, it seems like I'm not the only poster that doesn't get you.

[packerbacker1234]

Officiating clearly favored us in the game, and I understand Chilly's frustrations with a fair game being called. How Shianco's TD was called for a booth review and Quarlesses was not is beyond me. That is straight up upstairs officiating, who se ethe same stuff we do, not making the call. Outside of the fact that the ref that is right there isn't even watching quarless, he is just staring at his feet after he has already hit his back as if they are going to change or something.


There were a few other calls. The one play where clay matthews throws his helemt off before the paly is over - that is also against the rules. I forget how much the penalty is for it, but I think it's a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. He didn't throw it anyone, but you're clearly not allowed to be taking your helmet off on purpose in the middle of a play.

I remember during the game saying several times how nice it was having the regs on our side, so I am sure there were some other more 'obvious" penalities that never got thrown that I smiled about. I think Peprah had a pretty obvious one too if I recall we got no flag for. Meanwhile, the vikings seemed to get flags and such for almost any thing they did in terms of impact situations. Packers, meanwhile, got the benefit of the doubt.

I even debated on that one sideline throw to nelson, where he stopped at 10 yards and AR threw it 30 down field, if that should of been intentional grounding. There was NO ONE in the area. No defender, and certainly not Nelson.

It wasn;t intentional, but it may fit in the rules of being a grounding penalty.


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Matthews helmet was shoved halfway off by the offensive lineman: no penalty.

Jordy Nelson cut off a route, but was in the vicinity: no penalty.

You obviously didn't see the horrible spots for the Packers on third and short in the fourth quarter or that they called obviously non-TD's for MIN and made us waste our challenges to get them called correctly. The refs were terrible, but don't kid yourself: they didn't help us any either.

That is always debateable. Generally, linemen only get a penalty if it's a face mask. If it's open palmed, I believe it's legal. Remember, defense doesn't have those "can't touch the helmet" rules like the offense gets. Besides, the play I am talking out Matthews was by himself, used his own hands to toss his helmet off, and began running in persuit. It was very odd, and I saw no reason as to why he even did it. Still, he was willing taking his helmet off, bit different then it being forced off as a result of being blocked.

[ThunderDan]

That is always debateable. Generally, linemen only get a penalty if it's a face mask. If it's open palmed, I believe it's legal. Remember, defense doesn't have those "can't touch the helmet" rules like the offense gets. Besides, the play I am talking out Matthews was by himself, used his own hands to toss his helmet off, and began running in persuit. It was very odd, and I saw no reason as to why he even did it. Still, he was willing taking his helmet off, bit different then it being forced off as a result of being blocked.

Illegal hands to the face is a 15 yard penalty and can be called on both the O and the D. Only the ball carrier is allowed to put his hands on an opponents helmet/facemask without drawing a penalty.

Before Clay was all by himself, I believe Loadholt rip his helmet halfway off. Clay tooked it the rest of the way off. If you objectively look at the replay you would have seen this.

[sharpe1027]

That is always debateable. Generally, linemen only get a penalty if it's a face mask. If it's open palmed, I believe it's legal. Remember, defense doesn't have those "can't touch the helmet" rules like the offense gets. Besides, the play I am talking out Matthews was by himself, used his own hands to toss his helmet off, and began running in persuit. It was very odd, and I saw no reason as to why he even did it. Still, he was willing taking his helmet off, bit different then it being forced off as a result of being blocked.

No. Hands to the face is a penalty. Right before Matthews took off his helmet he was punched under the chin, throwing his helmet back and his chinstrap was knocked off his chin and across his face.

[ThunderDan]

I even debated on that one sideline throw to nelson, where he stopped at 10 yards and AR threw it 30 down field, if that should of been intentional grounding. There was NO ONE in the area. No defender, and certainly not Nelson.

It wasn;t intentional, but it may fit in the rules of being a grounding penalty.

First off, ARod was outside the tackle box so he was allowed to throw the ball anywhere he wants without a grounding penalty as long as the ball makes it past the line of scrimmage.

Second, Arod was scrambling to his right away from pressure. WR are taught that if the QB is in trouble you come back to the QB to help him. Jordy broke off his route and came back to ARod. ARod threw the ball long hoping that Jordy would continue his route. That mistake was on Arod.

[ThunderDan]

On some of those missed throws, Driver was running wide open over the middle. I remember one in particular where he actually got behind hte saftey and had 8 yards on the entire defense, but AR just seemed to be determined to NOT look at him, even though he had all day to make a decision.

You must have went to Randy Moss's WR camp. Just because a receiver is running open behind the defense doesn't mean anything. If the WR is the QBs first read in the progression and the WR is covered the QB moves on. The QB probably doesn't have enough time to go through his whole progession and then come back to the original WR.

Moss is famous for bitching at his QB on the sidelines that he was wide open behind the D. Most of the time the pocket is collapsing and the QB is running for his life. Moss doesn't care he was open and the QB was in trouble. All Moss cares about is himself and his stats.

[Guiness]

By us do you mean the MINNESOTA VIKINGS led by BF?

Well, it seems like I'm not the only poster that doesn't get you.

By 'you' do you mean Childress?

I couldn't figure out why I kept reading the beginning of the paragraph until TD pointed this out.

Childress is definitely gripping about everything he can think of. He sounds like those people on 'Hoarders' who blame their kids, parents, siblings, neighbors, everyone but themselves for the shit they've gotten themselves into.

[Tony Oday]

Clay was getting held like a freshman at prom most of the game

we got clipped for the late hit when the hit was initiated in the field of play

Chilly sucks because he didnt red flag Quarless

The ball does move on Black Ice in the Endzone forcing him to reclutch so that is why it was over turned...the big thing here is that Old Man River should have been able to hit him in the numbers.

Surprised you arent bitching about Percy having his feet in.

How about Frank Walker holding hand with GJ on most plays and getting no call?

[mngolf19]

Clay was getting held like a freshman at prom most of the game

we got clipped for the late hit when the hit was initiated in the field of play

Chilly sucks because he didnt red flag Quarless

The ball does move on Black Ice in the Endzone forcing him to reclutch so that is why it was over turned...the big thing here is that Old Man River should have been able to hit him in the numbers.

Surprised you arent bitching about Percy having his feet in.

How about Frank Walker holding hand with GJ on most plays and getting no call?

You do realize the NFL admitted it's mistake on the Black Ice play.

[Tony Oday]

Clay was getting held like a freshman at prom most of the game

we got clipped for the late hit when the hit was initiated in the field of play

Chilly sucks because he didnt red flag Quarless

The ball does move on Black Ice in the Endzone forcing him to reclutch so that is why it was over turned...the big thing here is that Old Man River should have been able to hit him in the numbers.

Surprised you arent bitching about Percy having his feet in.

How about Frank Walker holding hand with GJ on most plays and getting no call?

You do realize the NFL admitted it's mistake on the Black Ice play.

You do realize that they fined Chilly 35k, who knows what the VP of officiating said to him...I am supposed to listen to Chilly!? You are stoned...he lied about were his three of his best players were going when they went to get the Old Man that you call an NFL QB.

[Tarlam!]

It was a catch and a TD in any other league. Maybe not the NFL, but any other league, he got robbed.

[mmmdk]

Chilly: "50 drunks could've made that call".

I don't listen to brown baggers or sulky drinkers - ever.

NO TD, Vikings & drunks!

[denverYooper]

Chilly: "50 drunks could've made that call".

I don't listen to brown baggers or sulky drinkers - ever.

NO TD, Vikings & drunks!

good point. Goes right to credibility of the witness.

[ThunderDan]

Clay was getting held like a freshman at prom most of the game

we got clipped for the late hit when the hit was initiated in the field of play

Chilly sucks because he didnt red flag Quarless

The ball does move on Black Ice in the Endzone forcing him to reclutch so that is why it was over turned...the big thing here is that Old Man River should have been able to hit him in the numbers.

Surprised you arent bitching about Percy having his feet in.

How about Frank Walker holding hand with GJ on most plays and getting no call?

You do realize the NFL admitted it's mistake on the Black Ice play.

I'll wait for the NFL's apology and then I will believe it. At this point if Chilly leaked it there is no reason not to confirm the wrong call was made.