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  • Originally posted by vince
    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
    Add that to the way he treats people, and Childress made the right move. He made the right move bringing him in, the Vikings had to take a shot at him, but he is just a baby without his contract.
    Giving away a 3rd round pick is definitely NOT the right move. It didn't work out. CLEARLY THE WRONG MOVE.
    I also thought it was a good move at the time for MN. They were all-in this season and were desperate for a deep threat WR. Given the past desire by Moss and Favre to play with each other (he he) it seemed like they would have a decent shot of reigning in Moss' downside. It was a high risk-high reward scenario and they crapped out.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    • Definitely not the right move. What did they think they were getting? Did they think he was suddenly going to morph into a team-first Donald Driver-type?
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • The Vikings obviously thought it was the right move at the time too. Now we have the benefit of hindsight. IT WAS A TERRIBLE MOVE. That's blatantly obvious.

        Rationalizing a bad move with the logic used to justify it beforehand doesn't make it a good move.

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        • Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
          Originally posted by vince
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          Add that to the way he treats people, and Childress made the right move. He made the right move bringing him in, the Vikings had to take a shot at him, but he is just a baby without his contract.
          Giving away a 3rd round pick is definitely NOT the right move. It didn't work out. CLEARLY THE WRONG MOVE.
          I also thought it was a good move at the time for MN. They were all-in this season and were desperate for a deep threat WR. Given the past desire by Moss and Favre to play with each other (he he) it seemed like they would have a decent shot of reigning in Moss' downside. It was a high risk-high reward scenario and they crapped out.

          Sometimes that 3rd round pick is what you need to move up and select Clay Mathews. It was a pretty steep price, and they're not done paying for it.

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          • Originally posted by Brandon494
            Originally posted by Noodle
            Not all that different from the way Michael Jordan was always trying to get the front office to pick up Carolina guys.

            The SuperDudes just don't know their limitations. And that's not a good thing.
            Yea but Favre is no MJ. If you win me 6 championships you can have any player you want.
            Hmmm.....if MJ had ever been called for traveling when he traveled, or charging when he charged--how many championships do you think he'd have??
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            • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
              Originally posted by vince
              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
              Add that to the way he treats people, and Childress made the right move. He made the right move bringing him in, the Vikings had to take a shot at him, but he is just a baby without his contract.
              Giving away a 3rd round pick is definitely NOT the right move. It didn't work out. CLEARLY THE WRONG MOVE.
              I also thought it was a good move at the time for MN. They were all-in this season and were desperate for a deep threat WR. Given the past desire by Moss and Favre to play with each other (he he) it seemed like they would have a decent shot of reigning in Moss' downside. It was a high risk-high reward scenario and they crapped out.
              Sometimes that 3rd round pick is what you need to move up and select Clay Mathews. It was a pretty steep price, and they're not done paying for it.
              I'm thrilled this has blown up in their face. I could just see the logic of it from their standpoint at the time.
              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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              • From a purely football standpoint, the move made sense. It just seems the Vikings weren't prepared for what they would do when Moss decided to act like...well, Randy Moss. The successful organization seem have a plan and stick to it. The Vikings just seem to bounce from one crisis to another. Hey! Let's sign Jared Allen! Hey! Let's sign Brett Favre! hey! Let's trade for Randy Moss! Hey! Let's move to L.A.!
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • It was a desperation move. Quality teams don't make knee jerk desperation moves. And this is a perfect example of why.

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                  • Originally posted by Iron Mike
                    Hmmm.....if MJ had ever been called for traveling when he traveled, or charging when he charged--how many championships do you think he'd have??
                    It depends. Do any other players start getting called for traveling too...or just MJ?

                    Before he became the face of the NBA, he went through had a period of time that he wasn't getting calls even though the Pistons were beating the crap out of him.

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                    • So how much does it suck to be Major League Baseball?

                      No big-market east coast team in the WS, final game is the same night as a good MNF game, and just to pile on, all anyone wants to talk about is the Randy Moss disaster.

                      Bud has got to be wondering who he's got to pleasure to get a little media attention.

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                      • Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                        Quality teams don't make knee jerk desperation moves. And this is a perfect example of why.
                        QFT

                        THANKSTED
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • Originally posted by vince
                          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                          Add that to the way he treats people, and Childress made the right move. He made the right move bringing him in, the Vikings had to take a shot at him, but he is just a baby without his contract.
                          Giving away a 3rd round pick is definitely NOT the right move. It didn't work out. CLEARLY THE WRONG MOVE.
                          I'm with the Bert-Lover on this. Sure it was a 3rd, but the potential for THIS SEASON, was a seasoned vet deep threat.

                          Dumping him for whatever reason takes balls. I'm not a Chilly fan, yet I applaud him for the way he dealt with Moss.

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                          • Originally posted by Noodle
                            So how much does it suck to be Major League Baseball?

                            No big-market east coast team in the WS, final game is the same night as a good MNF game, and just to pile on, all anyone wants to talk about is the Randy Moss disaster.

                            Bud has got to be wondering who he's got to pleasure to get a little media attention.
                            Jenn Sterger.


                            Seriously, I bet Chilly or Milf would switch jobs with Bud right about now.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                              The real issue is that he just wasn't getting it done on the field. He was an even worse route runner, and refused to learn the offense.

                              He looked worse then the Randy Moss in Oakland. He simply was never a fit a west coast offense, and he showed it with his ability on the field, or lack there of it to actually run a route that wasn't a fly pattern, or a deep post.

                              Add that to the way he treats people, and Childress made the right move. He made the right move bringing him in, the Vikings had to take a shot at him, but he is just a baby without his contract.
                              I agree with all of that. For as much as I have ragged on Childress in the past, I really respect for the fact that he put his neck on the block on this one because he felt it was right for the team. After reading the article about Moss's treatment of the catering staff, I agree 100% with this move.
                              When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                              • Originally posted by Joemailman
                                From a purely football standpoint, the move made sense. It just seems the Vikings weren't prepared for what they would do when Moss decided to act like...well, Randy Moss. The successful organization seem have a plan and stick to it. The Vikings just seem to bounce from one crisis to another. Hey! Let's sign Jared Allen! Hey! Let's sign Brett Favre! hey! Let's trade for Randy Moss! Hey! Let's move to L.A.!
                                Please keep the LA crap out of the discussion. But they did follow a plan and up until this season it has worked. Which of the moves you stated above should they have not done given the results of the last 2 years and the expectations for this year? Had they won this year, none of the issues(crises) would have mattered to anyone.

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