James Jones is pissing me off...

[mission]

Looks like Jordy's targets just went up.

I kid, I kid.

I hope they cut Jones...

Ok Childress..

Don't let living in Minneapolis cloud your judgement, Tony.

I wasnt being THAT serious about cutting him I think he should shut up, play the game, CATCH THE BALL and turn into a stud player that we know he can be!

I'm with ya on all that. The third person shit gotstogo especially.. until his attitude is right I don't think we'll see all the other stuff all the way. I'm still expecting a big game from him this Sunday!

[superfan]

Looks like Jordy's targets just went up.

I kid, I kid.

I hope they cut Jones...

Ok Childress..

Don't let living in Minneapolis cloud your judgement, Tony.

[SkinBasket]

James Jones is a fucking retard. The guy's had perhaps more opportunity than any other guy who's had footballs thrown at him on this team and he's been a consistent disappointment. Drops, misreads, and assfuckery have defined his season in a tapestry of maligned prose punctuated occasionally and in all the wrong places by an exceptional play that still makes the fanboys erect and babble on about his awesome body. Whenever we need a simple comma clause, we get some idiotic semicolon split sentence that doesn't even make sense. James Jones can go fuck himself and die.

[channtheman]

James Jones is a fucking retard. The guy's had perhaps more opportunity than any other guy who's had footballs thrown at him on this team and he's been a consistent disappointment. Drops, misreads, and assfuckery have defined his season in a tapestry of maligned prose punctuated occasionally and in all the wrong places by an exceptional play that still makes the fanboys erect and babble on about his awesome body. Whenever we need a simple comma clause, we get some idiotic semicolon split sentence that doesn't even make sense. James Jones can go fuck himself and die.

+1. This shithead reminds me more and more of Robert Ferguson every time I see him. Bad shit happens when the ball is around him.

[ThunderDan]

Hmmm... Do more with the opportunities you are getting and you will get more opportunities. Don't drop passes and stop fumbling the ball after you catch it.

You have caught 19 balls this year and funbled it twice. That's over 10% of the time you catch a ball that you fumble.

For your career you have 118 catches and 5 fumbles. That's over 4%.

To compare, DD has caught 675 passes and fumbled 7 times. That's 557 receiptions and 2 more fumbles.

Hold on to the ball fucktard and shut up until you prove your worth on the field! I am sick of the 1 great play every 4 to 5 games!

[Brandon494]

Nelson might not be talking in third person but he's not doing any better.

[packerbacker1234]

Note to James Jones:

I see AR staring your way plenty. I see you getting targetted, at times, with more balls than Jennings.


You know what I also see? Fumbles and drops. You may WoW me once every 20 catches. You need to prove your are consistent enough to warrant that attention - ala Donald Driver. Driver has earned every ball that is thrown his way, and yes, it is clear with him hurt it effects the passing game greatly becuase he has a proven track record, even this year, of being reliable when the ball is around him. On the other hand, you have not proven crap.

You have the tools, now put your head on straight, stfu, and show up.

That is how you get to 6+ years of 1000 yards and 70+ catches. STFU, do your job, and EARN IT.

[Noodle]

Whenever we need a simple comma clause, we get some idiotic semicolon split sentence that doesn't even make sense. James Jones can go fuck himself and die.

Strunk & White never said it better than this.

And if you don't know Strunk & White, check it: http://www.amazon.com/Elements-Style...8932937&sr=1-1

[SkinBasket]

Nelson might not be talking in third person but he's not doing any better.

What the fuck does Nelson have to do with this? Even if he had something to do with Jones sucking massive radioactive cock, he's had nowhere near the number of opportunities, and from what I remember, Nelson hasn't had a problem dropping the ball or fumbling it after he catches it.

Of course, his body isn't a study in chocolate Adonis, so I know he doesn't flip your switch.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Nelson might not be talking in third person but he's not doing any better.

Nelson's playing better. The theory that Jones is a better WR isn't working out so well this season. Proof is on the field.

[mraynrand]

If Mraynrand were the QB, Mraynrand wouldn't throw more to Jones unless Mraynrand had some proof that Jones would catch and hang on to the damn ball.

Plus, it might help if he got open from time to time.

[Patler]

Nelson might not be talking in third person but he's not doing any better.

What the fuck does Nelson have to do with this? Even if he had something to do with Jones sucking massive radioactive cock, he's had nowhere near the number of opportunities, and from what I remember, Nelson hasn't had a problem dropping the ball or fumbling it after he catches it.

Of course, his body isn't a study in chocolate Adonis, so I know he doesn't flip your switch.

Nelson has had some big drops this year too. I don't know why everyone forgets his, but remembers Jones' drops.

Nelson, also a big target at 6-3, 217, has caught 16 passes for 186 yards in the last four games after catching 6 for 53 in the first four. Twelve of his 22 receptions have resulted in first downs, but he also has four drops.

Nelson = Jones; Jones = Nelson.
Nelson + Jones = nothing special this year. Decent, but not special. Both need to step up their games.

Both Nelson & Jones looked better as rookies than they have since. Both were reputed to have good hands as rookies, but both have had problems with drops at times since their rookie years. Maybe backup roles don't suit them. Maybe they need more consistent opportunities to play well. Jones played well when starting as a rookie due to Jennings injury. Nelson has looked best when Jones has been hurt. Neither has looked particularly good consistently when both were healthy and splitting the #3/#4 receiver position.

Both have been disappointing at some critical times this year.

[Fritz]

I love this site because you can have sheer genius like this from Mr. Skinbasket: "Drops, misreads, and assfuckery have defined his season in a tapestry of maligned prose punctuated occasionally and in all the wrong places by an exceptional play that still makes the fanboys erect and babble on about his awesome body."

AND rational, numbers-based logic from Patler.

It's the best of both worlds.

"Assfuckery" - my new favorite word.

[Tony Oday]

"Assfuckery" - my new favorite word.

Thats what she said?

[denverYooper]

Nelson might not be talking in third person but he's not doing any better.

What the fuck does Nelson have to do with this? Even if he had something to do with Jones sucking massive radioactive cock, he's had nowhere near the number of opportunities, and from what I remember, Nelson hasn't had a problem dropping the ball or fumbling it after he catches it.

Of course, his body isn't a study in chocolate Adonis, so I know he doesn't flip your switch.

Nelson has had some big drops this year too. I don't know why everyone forgets his, but remembers Jones' drops.

Nelson, also a big target at 6-3, 217, has caught 16 passes for 186 yards in the last four games after catching 6 for 53 in the first four. Twelve of his 22 receptions have resulted in first downs, but he also has four drops.

Nelson = Jones; Jones = Nelson.
Nelson + Jones = nothing special this year. Decent, but not special. Both need to step up their games.

Both Nelson & Jones looked better as rookies than they have since. Both were reputed to have good hands as rookies, but both have had problems with drops at times since their rookie years. Maybe backup roles don't suit them. Maybe they need more consistent opportunities to play well. Jones played well when starting as a rookie due to Jennings injury. Nelson has looked best when Jones has been hurt. Neither has looked particularly good consistently when both were healthy and splitting the #3/#4 receiver position.

Both have been disappointing at some critical times this year.

Nelson has been targeted 35 times, for a catch rate of 63% and has 0 fumbles as a receiver. He had some drops earlier this year but IMO he's gotten more consistent from the Miami game onward.

Jones has been targeted 40 times and has caught 19, for a catch rate of 48% and he has 2 fumbles. 15% is quite a difference in catch rate. Enough of a difference for me to say that he is not as reliable as Nelson at this point.

Football Outsiders also has Nelson listed 59th in receiver efficiency, performing slightly above the level of a Defense-adjusted average replacement receiver with 15 DYAR and Jones listed 78th, performing fairly well below at -39 DYAR. So the story that is supported by their numbers is that through 8 games Jordy has performed slightly better than an "average receiver" in the same given situations while Jones has performed quite a bit worse than that "average receiver" given the same opportunities.

I'm trying to track down the game splits that show #targets in each game because I suspect that Nelson has gone from as bad as Jones to above average through the year and Jones has shown more game-to-game fluctuation in performance that has kept him in that below average performance range.