McCarthy and "Close Games"

[mmmdk]

They blew a couple of good shots in Bears territory with one freak INT and one bad decision by Rodgers. Either one of those and the Packers would have gone up 3 scores. Also, they took one killshot down the sideline (when Rodgers got his lip blown up). I don't think the game was called much differently once they were up and Mac said that he was trying to get up 3 scores, they just hit everything in the Falcons game where they didn't in the Bears game.

Yup, I think we agree. These days are not for nitpicking.

Packers NFC Champions 2010 - it feels great writing & won't ever get old.

Packers soon to be NFL Champs again!

[pbmax]

Maybe fans expect too much. It's hard to put a team away, especially in the playoffs. The Steelers had a 21 point lead at halftime, at home, and were hanging on for dear life at the end.

Sometimes, the greatest problem with the Packers offense is the ease with which they do things. Score twice early in the game? Well, that should happen for the rest of the game, regardless of the opponent. And if it doesn't, critics blame nothing concrete, just choking, tightness, lack of killer instinct, conservative, fluoride in the water, etc. Its the other side of the same coin that Bear fans were probably decrying after being down by 14 points: "Lovie just doesn't know how to get his team fired up and start fast...."

The Packer O was unconscious for three drives and one bad bounce off Driver in traffic cost them a shot at a three score lead.

After that, a bad decision for an INT, a couple of penalties, a serious shot to the head of a previously concussed player, a couple bad runs and one very poor decision to run out of bounds turns off the offensive spigot and gives the Bears a chance to recover.

[Patler]

Sometimes, the greatest problem with the Packers offense is the ease with which they do things. Score twice early in the game? Well, that should happen for the rest of the game, regardless of the opponent. And if it doesn't, critics blame nothing concrete, just choking, tightness, lack of killer instinct, conservative, fluoride in the water, etc. Its the other side of the same coin that Bear fans were probably decrying after being down by 14 points: "Lovie just doesn't know how to get his team fired up and start fast...."

The Packer O was unconscious for three drives and one bad bounce off Driver in traffic cost them a shot at a three score lead.

After that, a bad decision for an INT, a couple of penalties, a serious shot to the head of a previously concussed player, a couple bad runs and one very poor decision to run out of bounds turns off the offensive spigot and gives the Bears a chance to recover.

People forget that, as the saying goes, the guys on the other side get paid to play, too. Sometimes they make the play, not your team. How many times have we seen Urlacher make interceptions like the one he made yesterday? He does it time and time again. I was reminded of a comment I read that someone made about Urlacher, that it is extremely difficult to get passes over him because he is a lot taller than he looks, has long arms, jumps very well for a beat-up old linebacker and has exceptional close area quickness with both his feet and his hands. You think you are throwing over or just past him, but he gets to it.

[Smidgeon]

Sometimes, the greatest problem with the Packers offense is the ease with which they do things. Score twice early in the game? Well, that should happen for the rest of the game, regardless of the opponent. And if it doesn't, critics blame nothing concrete, just choking, tightness, lack of killer instinct, conservative, fluoride in the water, etc. Its the other side of the same coin that Bear fans were probably decrying after being down by 14 points: "Lovie just doesn't know how to get his team fired up and start fast...."

The Packer O was unconscious for three drives and one bad bounce off Driver in traffic cost them a shot at a three score lead.

After that, a bad decision for an INT, a couple of penalties, a serious shot to the head of a previously concussed player, a couple bad runs and one very poor decision to run out of bounds turns off the offensive spigot and gives the Bears a chance to recover.

Plus, that's about as much of a blowout as you can expect between the Bears and Packers...

[mmmdk]

Plus, that's about as much of a blowout as you can expect between the Bears and Packers...

LOL - I guess

I think I'll put the 2008 blowout game dvd on tonight : Packers 37- Bears 3

[Smidgeon]

LOL - I guess

I think I'll put the 2008 blowout game dvd on tonight : Packers 37- Bears 3

Okay. So that's almost as big of a blowout as you can expect.

[Scott Campbell]

The apologists continue. Even without the injuries MM screws up.

And who's sorry now?

[Scott Campbell]

Voice of sanity for Packer fans denying reality.

Oh really?

[Scott Campbell]

Rant as you want. At the end of the day, MM's record in close and meaningful games is horrible -- zero disputing. MM is good at developing (i.e. Brooks and Rodgers) or enhancing careers (i.e. Gannon, Delhomme and Favre) qbs. MM has proven HE CAN NOT WIN CHAMPIONSHIP(S) IN TITLETOWN, USA.

Keep up the truthiness and see where it leads you.

Just an NFC Championship so far.

[Scott Campbell]

CANNOT and HAS not are two entirely different concepts. You're setting yourself up to look like a complete idiot if he does...I need to start bookmarking some of these threads...

You're welcome.

[Scott Campbell]

Cannot and has not are two different concepts but they both will and do apply to MM. He wont win a championship. What gives you any idea that he can? He has had five years and produced next to nothing.

I'd call this season fairly productive.

[Scott Campbell]

I agree, we are supposed to debate. Its fun. Its why we come here to see varying opinions and occassionally learn something. My guess is that MM gets one more season regardless due to serious injury issues this year. Despite a very tough schedule, shafting by the refs in a couple games, and Crosby clanking 2 more HUGE kicks this year we are in control of our own destiny. The overall body of work isn't bad. BUT.....either this year or next we need to make some waves in the playoffs. No less than an NFCC birth will do. I must be one of the few who still believe it can happen this year.

As a matter of fact, I'll go out on a limb. We meet Atlanta in the playoffs. I can't be sure we beat them, but we CAN. They are very good, extremely well coached. Nobody else in the NFC I feel is better than Green Bay. Bump it later and embarrass me, I can disappear for the rest of the year just like said poster from last year.....yea, you know who you are.

I'll bump it for you. Good call!

[Scott Campbell]

Since you are posting this -- yes or no is MM another Belichick? I say, "No."

Bill's watching Mike on TV this weekend.

[bobblehead]

I'm embarrassed :P

[Scott Campbell]

I consider MM an average coach now and I'll consider him average then. Certainly not worth firing. OK...I know you weren't waiting for an answer from me but I figured I'd jump in with an inkling to post.

I think MM is an above average playcaller. I'll list my coaching rankings someday when I have time and I think I'll put MM in the 12-18 range.

If I have a criticism of MM overall it's his hiring of coaches and loyalty to them to a fault. I'll think less of him if he finds the ST play acceptable and I can go either way on the OL

Where does he rank now?