Yep. The WR's lived up to their press clippings yesterday. That offense is nearly unstoppable when they do.
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If Jones had fumbled the way Jennings did, and fallen on a route like Jennings did; would it be ignored as Jennings' gaffes are being mostly ignored? Jennings is on a streak of at least one screw-up each game that goes back a while. He's supposed to be the top dog of the group. He needs to clean up his game for next week.
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Especially if it's the Bears. Nobody does a better job of stripping the ball after a catch than they do.Originally posted by Patler View PostIf Jones had fumbled the way Jennings did, and fallen on a route like Jennings did; would it be ignored as Jennings' gaffes are being mostly ignored? Jennings is on a streak of at least one screw-up each game that goes back a while. He's supposed to be the top dog of the group. He needs to clean up his game for next week.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
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Hate to rain on your Jennings hate, but the dude tends to make at least a couple of big plays for every screwup. Plus, he's the guy opening things up for all of the other receivers. Dude is a pure stud. I'm not sure I've seen somebody who runs routes as well as he does or is as quick as he is. Some of the moves he puts on defenders is ridiculous.Originally posted by Patler View PostIf Jones had fumbled the way Jennings did, and fallen on a route like Jennings did; would it be ignored as Jennings' gaffes are being mostly ignored? Jennings is on a streak of at least one screw-up each game that goes back a while. He's supposed to be the top dog of the group. He needs to clean up his game for next week.
If Jones had fumbled the way Jennings did, I actually wouldn't have gotten on him. Jennings made a couple of guys miss, and didn't know the other guy was there. Some times shit happens. It's different than Jones fumble against Chicago when he should have carried the ball in his other arm. Just a high school level screwup."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Funny how things just seem to happen to Jennings every week now. Oh well, he's a stud so I guess it doesn't matter.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostHate to rain on your Jennings hate, but the dude tends to make at least a couple of big plays for every screwup. Plus, he's the guy opening things up for all of the other receivers. Dude is a pure stud. I'm not sure I've seen somebody who runs routes as well as he does or is as quick as he is. Some of the moves he puts on defenders is ridiculous.
If Jones had fumbled the way Jennings did, I actually wouldn't have gotten on him. Jennings made a couple of guys miss, and didn't know the other guy was there. Some times shit happens. It's different than Jones fumble against Chicago when he should have carried the ball in his other arm. Just a high school level screwup.
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Jennings has had an increase in mistakes the past few weeks, no excuses. If you look at the regular season, however, despite having twice as many catches, yards and TDs, Jennings still had less fumbles than Jones. Jones also had more dropped passes:
So, half as much productivity and still more fumbles and drops. I'd say its not even close.
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JH you nailed it. I used to love JJ for his ability, but soured with his drops.Originally posted by JustinHarrell View PostHe is an animal facing the ball. Go back to his San Jose clips and that guy was a friggin animal going up for the jump balls there too. Those slants he's dropped and that deep bomb. . . It's maddening. He has #1 talent with a #4 hands. I'm still holding out hope.
He has insane ability to get open and make plays (Jordy can't do that). But the routine catch (Jordy's MO) is not JJ's domain.
He catches EVERYTHING in his face, but over the shoulder....sigh. Good post bro.Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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Jennings lost fumble in the last game was the first of his career.
To me, comparing Jennings to Jones is like comparing Adrian Peterson to Ryan Grant. Peterson is so dynamic that you'll live with some turnovers. Grant is more pedestrian and taking care of the ball has to be a part of his game. Jennings is dynamic. Jones is more pedestrian, so he just has to take care of the ball better.
Again, I like Jones where he's at in our offense, but I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and disappoint for a team thinks he'll be a decent #1 or very good #2 receiver."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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^^ThisOriginally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostJennings lost fumble in the last game was the first of his career.
To me, comparing Jennings to Jones is like comparing Adrian Peterson to Ryan Grant. Peterson is so dynamic that you'll live with some turnovers. Grant is more pedestrian and taking care of the ball has to be a part of his game. Jennings is dynamic. Jones is more pedestrian, so he just has to take care of the ball better.
Again, I like Jones where he's at in our offense, but I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and disappoint for a team thinks he'll be a decent #1 or very good #2 receiver.Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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Let me add to your post snake. ^^This....is true, but I abhor turnovers. As a bettor turnovers are a stat that can not be ignored. Peterson is awesome (behind a REALLY good line), but his fumbles keep him from being mentioned with Sanders and Smith. Same went for Tiki Barber before he learned to hold onto the ball.
I been cracking on Jennings (for like 3 posts) because people were ignoring his deficiencies while wanting to crucify JJ. Jennings has proven his worth. So has JJ. Jennings is certainly more, but JJ is far from worthless. JJ is anything but pedestrian. He makes spectacular plays. Big plays. But then he makes you kick the dog. Jennings is not a fumbler, but neither is JJ really. He has had a couple problems against the bears, no one else. As for carrying the ball in the wrong arm...Ahman Green did that his entire career and nary a peep.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Jennings has made some horrific mistakes against the Bears; let's hope that does not continueTERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER
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The key word in that statement is "lost". Jennings has had 5 fumbles during the regular seasons, but has been fortunate to only lose one of them, and its not because he "fumbles better" so doesn't lose them!Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View PostJennings lost fumble in the last game was the first of his career.
To me, comparing Jennings to Jones is like comparing Adrian Peterson to Ryan Grant. Peterson is so dynamic that you'll live with some turnovers. Grant is more pedestrian and taking care of the ball has to be a part of his game. Jennings is dynamic. Jones is more pedestrian, so he just has to take care of the ball better.
Again, I like Jones where he's at in our offense, but I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and disappoint for a team thinks he'll be a decent #1 or very good #2 receiver.
Any fumble can be a turnover. Whether it is or not often depends on who else is around at the time.
Sorry, but I don't see Jennings as the "Adrian Peterson" of wide receivers, so I wouldn't give him nearly the slack that I would for Peterson. More importantly, as to how Jennings is playing right now, the lost fumble was his third fumble this season; however, one that was attributed to him was on the multiple laterals during the last play against Atlanta, so it is hard to attach a lot of blame on that. But, my point has been that with a couple fumbles, a number of dropped balls, and a few plays where he has seemed to lose focus, Jennings needs to tighten up his game. After all, he is supposed to be the Packers' stud at WR.
Driver, in a 12 year career and over 700 "touches", has 8 fumbles.
Jennings, with 323 touches has 5 fumbles.
Jones with 149 touches has 6 fumbles (3 playing against Chicago).
Jordy Nelson also has 6 fumbles, but 5 have been on kick and punt returns.
Regarding fumbles, Jones is awful, Jennings probably about average for a WR, Driver is quite secure with the ball, and Jordy Nelson shouldn't be used as a returner!
Last edited by Patler; 01-22-2011, 08:50 AM.
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