James Jones!

[bobblehead]

Yep. The WR's lived up to their press clippings yesterday. That offense is nearly unstoppable when they do.

Wanna know what is really sick. Arod had 5 incompletions. On one Jennings fell, on another he threw it at BJacks feet because a screen got blown up. Don't recall the other 3, but at least 2 weren't because he missed a target.

[mraynrand]

Peterson...his fumbles keep him from being mentioned with Sanders and Smith. Same went for Tiki Barber before he learned to hold onto the ball.

Peterson has mentioned with Sanders and Smith. Peterson's fumbles kept him from a championship, not from being considered one of the best backs in football.

P.S. Tiki Barber? Really?

[bobblehead]

Peterson has mentioned with Sanders and Smith. Peterson's fumbles kept him from a championship, not from being considered one of the best backs in football.

P.S. Tiki Barber? Really?

Peterson does not deserve to be mentioned with sanders and smith, and anyone who does so ignores the impact his fumbles have on his team. Tiki Barber...yes, really. His last 2 seasons he was absolutely dominant....after he stopped fumbling. Then he retired.

[mraynrand]

Peterson does not deserve to be mentioned with sanders and smith, and anyone who does so ignores the impact his fumbles have on his team. Tiki Barber...yes, really. His last 2 seasons he was absolutely dominant....after he stopped fumbling. Then he retired.

What impact did Sanders not fumbling have on his team?

My point about Barber is that he was just as 'dominant' before and after the fumbles. Mostly the difference between early and late in his career was that his receptions went from about 70 to about 50 and the number of carries went way up. He got more opportunities to run because he was dominant in the offense, and they needed him, not because he stopped fumbling.

Let just clarify here - you're saying that 4-5 extra fumbles/year for a guy who has 400 touches should remove him from the great running back conversation?

[mmmdk]

Jennings lost fumble in the last game was the first of his career.

To me, comparing Jennings to Jones is like comparing Adrian Peterson to Ryan Grant. Peterson is so dynamic that you'll live with some turnovers. Grant is more pedestrian and taking care of the ball has to be a part of his game. Jennings is dynamic. Jones is more pedestrian, so he just has to take care of the ball better.

Again, I like Jones where he's at in our offense, but I have a feeling he'll go elsewhere and disappoint for a team thinks he'll be a decent #1 or very good #2 receiver.

You like kicking ass, Harv?

[Bretsky]

Jennings has made some horrific mistakes against the Bears; let's hope that does not continue

IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT

I meant to say "JONES" has had some horrific mistakes against da Bears

[RashanGary]

I've been a Jones defender, but that horrific drop in Philly has me questioning his reliability. And yes, Jones has been disgusting in Bear games.

[mraynrand]

IDIOT IDIOT IDIOT

I meant to say "JONES" has had some horrific mistakes against da Bears

Jennings did drop that TD pass in the game at Lambeau....

[rbaloha1]

Expect JJ to have a good game with the regained confidence.

[packerbacker1234]

JJ is alright. He's not consistent enough to be a #2, but he has enough skills to be a #3 on most peoples teams for a long time. It only sucks because we all see his inherent ability, but are baffled at why he drops the balls he does.

[RashanGary]

Jones flashes #1 ability. He was in the top 32 WR's this year for yards. Either Jones has #1 WR talent or we think there are only 20 #1 WR's in the NFL.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The key word in that statement is "lost". Jennings has had 5 fumbles during the regular seasons, but has been fortunate to only lose one of them, and its not because he "fumbles better" so doesn't lose them! Any fumble can be a turnover. Whether it is or not often depends on who else is around at the time.

Sorry, but I don't see Jennings as the "Adrian Peterson" of wide receivers, so I wouldn't give him nearly the slack that I would for Peterson.

Well, one of his 5 fumbles wasn't actually a fumble. Go back and look at the fumble in the earlier Atlanta game. If the Packers hadn't recovered the fumble that wasn't actually a fumble, it would have been reviewed and he would have been ruled down.

I don't think Jennings is quite as good at WR as Peterson is at RB, but I think Jennings is closer to the top of the WR chain than you think. Also, I think Ryan Grant is a better RB than Jones is a WR, so it kind of evens out the comparison.

[Patler]

I don't think Jennings is quite as good at WR as Peterson is at RB, but I think Jennings is closer to the top of the WR chain than you think.

Not true. I actually do think Jennings is one of the better receivers, and that's my point. He hasn't really been playing like it with fumbles, drops and inattentive plays all too frequently and in clusters this season. I expect better play from him than I do from Jones.

[Joemailman]

Jones flashes #1 ability. He was in the top 32 WR's this year for yards. Either Jones has #1 WR talent or we think there are only 20 #1 WR's in the NFL.

I'd say 20 is about right. Lots of teams don't have a legit #1, including the Bears.

[RashanGary]

Jones would be the best receiver on a handful of teams in this league, maybe even the Bears. He'd be a starter on all but a handful of teams in the league (including the team he's on oddly enough).

He's going to put up significant career numbers in the NFL. In yards, receptions and touchdowns he'll finish somewhere in the top 200 WR's that ever played the game. Just to put some perspective on that, there are about 150 WR's who play today, so there have been a lot of receivers who've played in the NFL.

If he just gets 700 yards per season through his prime (the next 6 years or so) he'll finish where I think. I actually think it's a safe guess.


Tramon Williams was a guy who everyone sat around and bitched about how inconsistent, overrated, questionalbe he was and all he did was turn out great. Jones dropsies and fumblitis rule him out from becoming the next Tramon, but he has that kind of talent and he's going to have a big career IMO.