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    • Here's another quote from you, Wist: "other than a turnover, the worst case scenario is we fail to pick up the necessary 1st downs, and we end up punting the ball away - which is exactly where your MO landed us anyway."

      Okay, the problem with your logic is that it does not take into account the odds of an incompletion plus the odds of an interception vs. the odds of a no-gain on a running play plus the odds of a fumble, remembering to factor into the equation that a no-gain run keeps the clock moving while an incompletion stops the clock. And stopping the clock IS important, regardless of what you say. Or why else would a defensive team call a timeout when that team is behind?

      Look at the website Cold, Hard Football Facts for an article on the dangers of interceptions. That article also makes a case that interceptions are more likely than fumbles.
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • Originally posted by get louder at lambeau View Post
        And if he play action passed on 2nd down and the Eagles won, many people on this forum would still be bashing him for a while.

        They're even bashing him after a win. A third consecutive win. An 11th win this year. An upset playoff win on the road. They bashed him last year after the Packers set franchise records for points scored in a season and points scored in a playoff game. It's what they do.
        Wait, the Packers won?
        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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        • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
          Here's another quote from you, Wist: "other than a turnover, the worst case scenario is we fail to pick up the necessary 1st downs, and we end up punting the ball away - which is exactly where your MO landed us anyway."

          Okay, the problem with your logic is that it does not take into account the odds of an incompletion plus the odds of an interception vs. the odds of a no-gain on a running play plus the odds of a fumble, remembering to factor into the equation that a no-gain run keeps the clock moving while an incompletion stops the clock. And stopping the clock IS important, regardless of what you say. Or why else would a defensive team call a timeout when that team is behind?

          Look at the website Cold, Hard Football Facts for an article on the dangers of interceptions. That article also makes a case that interceptions are more likely than fumbles.
          Also, on a pass play you can have EITHER an INT or a fumble, so it's not one or the other. It's one possibility or both of them.
          Last edited by get louder at lambeau; 01-14-2011, 05:42 PM.

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          • As the Mad Hatter would say, "How true that is."
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
              Wait, the Packers won?
              Stop changing the subject, Stubby lover. Bold playcalling is the mark of a champion.
              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                Stop changing the subject, Stubby lover. Bold playcalling is the mark of a champion.
                Except when it's third down and is stopped. Then it is just idiotic and stupid and MM should have run the ball.

                I have no problem relying on the defense to stop the other team from driving a long field. This isn't the 2008 defense that coughed up leads left and right.
                Go PACK

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                • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                  I think people bitch about playcalling too much.
                  I agree, and I also think that people defend the playcalling too much.

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                  • This would be a nice place to end this thread.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
                      I think people bitch about playcalling too much.
                      Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                      I agree, and I also think that people defend the playcalling too much.
                      So, what is the proper punishment for Fritz for starting this thread?
                      I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                      While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                      But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                      • Usually that picture of Dr. Laura kills a thread like Mike Vick on a runty Rotty.
                        [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                        • Originally posted by th87 View Post
                          What defensive execution took place to cause the ball to hit Avant's hands and bounce off of them? He was wide open. What ST execution caused the miss of a chip shot FG?

                          This is like saying Freeman's MNF catch or the Immaculate Reception were products of execution. I would highly disagree with those assertions.
                          Had Avant been hammered lately? (I don't remember so it's a serious question. Was he imagining footsteps from getting knocked around?) The wind WAS a serious factor in the game and therefore forcing them into a field goal increased the likelihood of a miss and no points. Even if he makes one of the two he missed, we still win.

                          That said, I never like to back off on offense unless we're up by more than one score. I fully agree with and understand the concept of eating the clock, but I don't like the predictability of overly depending on the run at the end of the game when the other team's expecting it.
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • You forgot sacks.

                            Why yes, yes I did read the post I just posted. Why?
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • Originally posted by retailguy View Post
                              I agree, and I also think that people defend the playcalling too much.

                              agree
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                You could argue they made their own luck/breaks. Look, they stopped Philly's offense all day long. The same offense that scored 21 point in 7 minutes, and gave defenses fits all year long - give 'em some credit.
                                So youre saying the defense won it?

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