IF the Packers win it all should they give a ring to Al Harris ?

[mraynrand]

If the Packers had IR'd him instead of releasing him after PUP, this would be a non-issue. But that wouldn't have been fair to Al since TT knew that he didn't have a spot on the team anymore due to the play of Williams and Shields.

I get your point here, but you sort of missed the mark. Al wanted to play, that's why TT didn't IR him. Bobble's right - a healthy Al Harris would have made the 53 man roster after training camp, but by the time he came off PUP, he wasn't good enough to make it.

As to whether he should get a ring or not, I don't care - that's up to the team. If I were in Al Harris' shoes though, I wouldn't take a ring, cuz I never played a down. Ryan Grant? I'd take it, but I wouldn't be bragging about it - it would be like showing off a purple heart you got for falling out of a jeep on the way to the front.

[Patler]

you could say that, but you would be wrong. PuP is a temporary injured list. If it was for non injured players it would be called the extended training camp list and Breno Giacomini would have been on it....but its for players who are injured early/prior to training camp. Not one poster would argue that if fully healthy Al Harris would have made the team.

Of course it is a delayed training camp, a training camp for those unable to participate in the regular training camp due to injury. Their training camp is delayed 6 weeks. That's the entire philosophy behind the PUP list. Since they are not able to participate in camp due to their pre-camp condition, they do not have a chance to "make the team" so they are given another chance 6 weeks later. Then the team has 3 weeks in their "delayed tryout" to decide if they "make the team" and are placed on the 53 man roster, are still injured and put on IR, or do not "make the team" and are released.

Harris had the same exact opportunity that Blackmon had, only 6 weeks after Blackmon. He had the same result as Blackmon had. He didn't make the team.

What do you mean, "Not one poster would argue that if fully healthy Al Harris would have made the team."? Do you mean if he had not been injured? That's irrelevant. The final event in a lot of careers is an injury that an older veteran never recovers from sufficiently to play.

[MJZiggy]

He was under contract with the team for 9 weeks of the season. No, he didn't get to play. Still, he had a hand in us getting there. There was nothing that Tramon Williams learned from Al Harris? If Al taught him anything this season, while he was under contract with the team, then I'd suggest calling him a temporary coach if we have to, but the Packers brought him back and held him on the team for half the season. He has had an influence on the play of the CBs THIS season. I think he deserves the metal and a coaching job depending on who we lose after the big game.

[Smidgeon]

I get your point here, but you sort of missed the mark. Al wanted to play, that's why TT didn't IR him. Bobble's right - a healthy Al Harris would have made the 53 man roster after training camp, but by the time he came off PUP, he wasn't good enough to make it.

As to whether he should get a ring or not, I don't care - that's up to the team. If I were in Al Harris' shoes though, I wouldn't take a ring, cuz I never played a down. Ryan Grant? I'd take it, but I wouldn't be bragging about it - it would be like showing off a purple heart you got for falling out of a jeep on the way to the front.

I wasn't trying to get or make a point. Just sharing an observation I stumbled upon.

[Freak Out]

No.

[esoxx]

Yes

[swede]

Maybe

[mraynrand]

Perchance

[mraynrand]

I wasn't trying to get or make a point. Just sharing an observation I stumbled upon.

I get the observation you shared, but it sort of missed the mark.

[gbgary]

definitely

[pbmax]

Defiantly.

[Joemailman]

[vince]

I'm sold.

[pbmax]

I'm sold.

She looks studious.

[Freak Out]

Ok......yes.