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I don't think they'd deal him for anything less than a 2. If he stays, then signs and starts for a team after '11, you'd likely get a 3rd at that time as a compensatory pick, so why not just hang onto him for another year if that's the case.
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All the third round compensatory picks are after the third round. Not much different than an early 4th round pick. A team needing a QB could very well be picking at the top of the round. The difference between an early third round pick that you might trade him for and a compensatory third round pick after you lose him can be almost an entire round in the draft.Originally posted by vince View PostComment
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There certainly are a number of teams with picks high in the 2nd round who will be looking for a QB. A case of the rich getting richer if TT could get a 2nd round pick for his backup QB.
Speaking of that, Patriots have Oakland's 1st round pick, Carolina's 2nd round pick and Minnesota's 3rd round pick.
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That is one disadvantage to not trading much. Harder to fleece the sheep.Originally posted by Joemailman View PostThere certainly are a number of teams with picks high in the 2nd round who will be looking for a QB. A case of the rich getting richer if TT could get a 2nd round pick for his backup QB.
Speaking of that, Patriots have Oakland's 1st round pick, Carolina's 2nd round pick and Minnesota's 3rd round pick.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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Right but the value you get for having him this year in case Rodgers goes down for soem time makes up for that IMO.Originally posted by Patler View PostComment
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Definitely a difference in philosophy there. Belichick has no problem with the idea of trading to stockpile picks in future years. TT just doesn't do it.Originally posted by pbmax View PostI can't run no more with that lawless crowd
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He played for us twice this year with AR down and we lost both games. Not saying he didn't play well but having him as "insurance" for Rodgers isn't exactly like having All State or something. There's still a chance we lose.Originally posted by vince View Post
Playing very well and looking the part versus New England only helps us for his trade value. I could have started for the Packers and led the team to the same result.
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Maybe a difference in philosophy. Or maybe Ted hasn't felt he has had enough talent/depth to be able to stockpile... Until now. Could be interesting!!Originally posted by Joemailman View PostComment
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Flynn'll be in his third year in the system. He's no Rodgers and he never will be. His arm strength is suspect but he's a gamer. Regardless of what he is and isn't, there isn't another quarterback with better command of this offense. He'd give us the best chance to win in the event Rodgers goes down for any period. That could make a huge difference to the season. You just don't know. I'd move him for a 2, but I wouldn't trade him for a difference of 15-20 spots in the draft vs. what he'd likely fetch if you just let him walk next year. JMO.Comment
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Its probably more like a difference of 25 spots in the draft, or more, and you can't be assured of being awarded a 3rd. What if the NFL's crystal ball says "Round Four". It could be guaranteeing a pick in the range of #65 to #75 this year vs. a hoped for pick #97 next year, which could just as easily be a #130 or higher if the league awards a 4th instead of a 3rd.Originally posted by vince View Post
Plus, a high third round pick this year night be tradeable with the #32 or the #64 picks to move up into the low middle of the 1st or the middle of the second round to grab someone more coveted. The compensatory pick can't be traded, so it gives TT no flexibility.Comment
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It's certainly a debatable situation. There are a lot of unknowns. Will Rodgers stay healthy? How much will Flynn play if/when dealt? How good will he be? But my opinion is that the Packers should put themselves in a no-lose situation before making a deal. There's no reason to think otherwise. While there are many unknowns, insuring against the worst case ensures no regrets.
Most can agree that a 2nd would be enough to get a deal done.Last edited by vince; 02-13-2011, 05:20 PM.Comment
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It comes down to a couple factors: first, how good is Harrell? Good enough to be a back up? Second, will the Pack draft a QB? Third, what is the risk of letting Flynn walk for nothing after next season (if there is a season) versus trading him, knowing you don't have a strong backup if Flynn is gone?
I'd say a second means he's gone, for sure. But what about - if in fact people think GB is so deep - a second not in this draft, but the next?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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I kind of hope they draft Nevada's Colin Kaepernick on the third day, not only does he have impressive tools, but he's also a Packer fan and was already drafted by the Cubs but would prefer to play football.Originally posted by Fritz View Post</delurk>Comment
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you have to think about what we would be getting in return for him.
honestly, we are loaded as a team from top to bottom without many weaknesses and lots of depth. if we get a 2nd or 3rd or 4th round pick for flynn we would basically be trading one very good backup for a draft pick that we hope turns out to be a good draft pick over the next couple of years
with a team like ours that is ready to make a long run, its good to have a backup qb like flynn that can come in and at least allow us to compete if a-rod goes down for a game or a few
right now i would almost say if we can't get a 1st or a high 2nd for him, then it isn't worth trading him at this pointComment
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