Matt Flynn Speculation

[Joemailman]

One advantage to trading Flynn is that you control where he goes. Let him enter free agency next year and he might end up in Minnesota, or even Detroit if Stafford's shoulder problems continue. If MM feels Graham Harrell is ready to be the backup, there's a good chance TT will deal him this year.

[Smidgeon]

I'm inclined to think you're correct (and realistic)... anything in the 50-80 range would be great. There's always some sort of bundling that could happen to improve that draft pick as well. Whether that's a pick of ours or an overvalued player, I can see TT trying to make a big move to up in the first (or improve add to our early middle picks) if there's someone he really likes.

We all know it's going to be tough to make this team next year and drafting 6-7 guys just seems like a waste of picks when half of them probably wouldn't make the team. Get rid of half the picks, improve the quality of player and double the chance they make the squad. Not directly Flynn related but could factor into whether we move him or not.

Is your real life name Mike Sherman?

[Smidgeon]

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...litz-8249.html


A second round pick, especially from a bad team, would be awfully tempting.

...unless the 2nd round pick turned into Brian Brohm (who--as a tangent--should be the poster child for a bad TT draft pick, not Justin Harrell; I'm sick of writers using Harrell instead of Brohm as an example of a "miss-step" by TT.)

[mission]

Is your real life name Mike Sherman?

Ya, actually.

No relation to the former Packers coach however.

[mission]

you have to think about what we would be getting in return for him.

honestly, we are loaded as a team from top to bottom without many weaknesses and lots of depth. if we get a 2nd or 3rd or 4th round pick for flynn we would basically be trading one very good backup for a draft pick that we hope turns out to be a good draft pick over the next couple of years

with a team like ours that is ready to make a long run, its good to have a backup qb like flynn that can come in and at least allow us to compete if a-rod goes down for a game or a few

right now i would almost say if we can't get a 1st or a high 2nd for him, then it isn't worth trading him at this point

That's always a very good argument on this general topic, but in this case I think we'll see TT package some sort of deal to either move our 1st up or get another one (or high second). I'm assuming we don't want to draft 6-7 guys this year. It'll be interesting to see how TT approaches this one -- could be his most creative yet.

[mission]

...unless the 2nd round pick turned into Brian Brohm (who--as a tangent--should be the poster child for a bad TT draft pick, not Justin Harrell; I'm sick of writers using Harrell instead of Brohm as an example of a "miss-step" by TT.)

Big deal on either one. You're gonna hit and miss. TT hits way more than he misses.

Just looking at the 2005 draft list and all the players that went before AR makes me realize how much of it is a crapshoot. When a GM has built this kind of team, it's difficult listening to anyone (writer, forum, etc) making an issue over some picks that didn't pan out. Hopefully a SB can put that all to rest. (not directed at you at all btw)

[woodbuck27]

2011 NFL Trade Rumors: Players for All 32 Teams Who Need to Be Dealt

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/607344-2011-nfl-trade-rumors-players-for-all-32-teams-who-need-to-be-dealt

Green Bay Packers: Matt Flynn, QB

The Packers already have a marquee quarterback on their roster that took the team to a Super Bowl this year by the name of Aaron Rodgers, so it doesn't seem like Matt Flynn is really someone who could be considered trade bait.

However, the Packers have apparently already been fielding calls regarding the former LSU Tiger.
If the Packers decided to move their back-up quarterback it would appear that they could get a number of helpful pieces in return.

He might be a fit in Miami or Minnesota. How about a trade with San Fran for Frank Gore. I can see Bill Belichick his mouth watering over Gore.


Other QB's possibly available to be moved and available to teams with need at QB include :

** Philadelphia Eagles: Kevin Kolb, QB

Coming into this season it looked like Kevin Kolb was going to be the franchise quarterback for the Philadelphia Eagles. However with the re-emergence of Michael Vick, Kolb has become expendable. Kolb's value could not be higher than it is right now. He has had some success but he is a relative unknown commodity. The Eagles could get quite a bit in return for Kolb including potentially a rather high draft pick or two

** Arizona Cardinals: Max Hall, QB

After watching just how badly the Cardinals struggled at the quarterback position in 2010, there needs to be a change of the guard in Arizona. Max Hall didn't get a chance to make much of an impact last year after struggling with an injury but after seeing John Skelton play it seems like the Cardinals will need to chose one of the two. I expect them to stick with Skelton who got some more playing time. The Cardinals could get some good value in return for Hall. Probably not much, but at least enough to make it worth it.

** Miami Dolphins: Tyler Thigpen, QB

Tyler Thigpen is a very underrated quarterback but I still think he could garner a hefty price for a team looking to make a change at the quarterback position. Now the Dolphins still appear to be committed to Chad Henne as their quarterback of the future, but the could use Thigpen to add some other things they need. The Fins could use a runningback so if they send Thigpen to the 49ers as part of a package for Frank Gore.

** Denver Broncos: Kyle Orton, QB

After a terrible 2010 season the Denver Broncos are in need of some real talent on the defensive side of the football. With the emergence of Tim Tebow at quarterback it seems like Kyle Orton is a guy that the Broncos could move in exchange for some big pieces. Orton is actually a guy that could help a number of NFL teams that are in need of a quarterback.

The question is how much teams would be willing to pay for the former Purdue star.

** Tennessee Titans: Vince Young, QB

The Titans could be going through some real hole-sale changes this year. Not only are they facing their first season with a new coach since the 1990s but they have already announced that they would be moving Vince Young. The Titans will have no shortage of suitors for the former Heisman runner-up. I do think the Titans could be good in 2011 if they were to get the right package in return.

and ... Consideratoins that GM Ted Thompson might pursue:

*** This fella could fill one of our biggest needs, specifically short term at RB and handling KO's / punt returns:

Seattle Seahawks: Leon Washington, RB/KR

The impact that Leon Washington has on special teams cannot be undervalued. However, the Seahawks are going to need more than a kick returner in order to make the leap from one of the worst teams to ever make the playoffs to actual contenders. Washington could get a large amount in return if the Seahawks were to consider trading him.

After getting Marshawn Lynch from the Bills that made Washington's impact as a runningback a little more obsolete for the Seahawks

*** or this fella. Would he fit our defense?:

New York Giants: Osi Umenyiora, DE might be signed as a FA. WE have the same option with Leon Washington to cover that major need.

Fine tuning to ensure a real run at a repeat. It's looking very good.

GO PACK GO !

[Fritz]

Frank Gore? Nah.

[Lurker64]

"I can see Bill Belichick his mouth watering over Gore."

Well, then why doesn't New England trade for him then? It's not like they lack for draft picks.

[denverYooper]

Frank Gore? Nah.

+1

[get louder at lambeau]

I'd feel much better about trading Flynn after the draft, assuming the Packers take a QB who would be his intended replacement and they see the rookie perform well in person in OTAs. We really don't need another draft pick this year too badly anyway, and this was supposed to be a weak draft class, right?

Get the new guy, see him work, then trade Flynn if you want and get a pick in the 2012 draft. If trade partners seem less interested after the draft, hold onto Flynn until someone's QB goes down or their new guy starts to flop. A trade of Flynn half way through 2011 might be the best possible scenario. We would get to keep him to back up Rodgers just a little longer, and still get some value. Even if things don't go according to plan, they can just keep him, have a decent backup while the new guy learns, and hope for a compensatory pick after the season.

Obviously I'm discounting Graham Harrell here. I don't know much about him, and I'm assuming that he isn't the answer. If McCarthy and Co. think differently, then that changes everything, and they might as well trade Flynn sooner than later. I'm also assuming the CBA talks don't screw everything up. If that happens, then, well, who knows?

[vince]

I actually think Graham Harrell will be the next back-up. I've watched him in practice and he moved the ball in preseason. He seems to be very much like Matt Flynn - a tough-minded winner with an accurate arm but lacks the arm strength to be elite. However, I'm not sure he's quite ready yet after one year, particularly if there ends up being no QB school this offseason.

I'd like to see Flynn get his opportunity. He deserves it and he'll get it. He just may have to be patient and wait one more year like Rodgers did.

[Fritz]

I'd feel much better about trading Flynn after the draft, assuming the Packers take a QB who would be his intended replacement and they see the rookie perform well in person in OTAs. We really don't need another draft pick this year too badly anyway, and this was supposed to be a weak draft class, right?

Get the new guy, see him work, then trade Flynn if you want and get a pick in the 2012 draft. If trade partners seem less interested after the draft, hold onto Flynn until someone's QB goes down or their new guy starts to flop. A trade of Flynn half way through 2011 might be the best possible scenario. We would get to keep him to back up Rodgers just a little longer, and still get some value. Even if things don't go according to plan, they can just keep him, have a decent backup while the new guy learns, and hope for a compensatory pick after the season.

Obviously I'm discounting Graham Harrell here. I don't know much about him, and I'm assuming that he isn't the answer. If McCarthy and Co. think differently, then that changes everything, and they might as well trade Flynn sooner than later. I'm also assuming the CBA talks don't screw everything up. If that happens, then, well, who knows?

I think this is on the money.

[King Friday]

I think you have to trade Flynn now if there is definitive interest in him. It is a risk, because you probably should have a decent #2 behind AR. On the other hand, Flynn's value probably won't be any higher than it is now though. With such a weak class of QBs in the draft, there is a limited supply of talented kids at the position.

I think we could get a 2nd rounder this year for him...would it be possible to snare a first rounder in the 2012 draft for him?

[Freak Out]

The only way we get a 1st for Flynn is if Rodgers goes down (shudder) and Flynn wins some games.