Disagree. Jones' troubles are not when he's facing the ball and it comes into his body or when he catches the ball with his hands and thumbs in. His troubles have been on go routes and/or when he's catching the ball over the shoulder with his thumbs out. Whenever possible, he should get his thumbs together and snatch the ball like you say, but that's often much more difficult to turn on the fly or impossible to reach the ball in that fashion on over-the-shoulder throws downfield which has been Jones' problem catch. Unfortunately those are the home-run balls too.
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For all we know the only reason Jones drops passes is because hes not getting enough opportunities to catch more of them. Hard to get in a rhythm when the ball is spread around so much. I'm not saying that is the reason but it could be. Its just concentration with him. I think we shouldn't overblow it though. Guys like Dwayne Bowe and Braylon Edwards also drop a ton of passes, but they are still game changing WR's. According to football outsiders this year Jones had a 57% catch rate. Brandon Lloyd was at 50%. Miles Austin 58%. Brandon Marshall 59%. Just saying, it seems like a lot of drops but its not as many as some let on. If anything, Jordy Nelsons 70% this year sets a ridiculously high bar and he dropped a bunch in Dallas.
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Yeah, bottom line is he left for more money, and honestly he can't really do much more with the core of recievers we have. They can't really get any worse, so maybe someone can make them better. No big loss really.Originally posted by Lurker64 View PostAnswer: It's not the same position. He was a Wide Receivers Coach, and now he's a Wide Receivers/Assistant Head Coach... and what comes with that is a large pay hike.
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It is a nice promotion for Robinson. Honestly, I'm not sure we NEED Robinson at this point. We don't have a bunch of rookie WRs on the team...Driver, Jennings, Nelson, and Jones all know their business and Rodgers will start taking his leadership of the offense to another level now as well. Find a stopgap for a couple years...because I could eventually see Driver becoming an excellent WR coach.It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!
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Butt buddies?Originally posted by channtheman View PostWhy would a guy leave a Super Bowl winning team for the same position on a team in complete disarray? No really, is there an answer to this question?
Not that I dislike this move. Our receivers never seemed to play to their full potential except for one game (Atlanta playoff game). We had drops drops and more drops all season long.
....that or the pay increaseThe Bottom Line:
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Not a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.Originally posted by King Friday View PostIt is a nice promotion for Robinson. Honestly, I'm not sure we NEED Robinson at this point. We don't have a bunch of rookie WRs on the team...Driver, Jennings, Nelson, and Jones all know their business and Rodgers will start taking his leadership of the offense to another level now as well. Find a stopgap for a couple years...because I could eventually see Driver becoming an excellent WR coach.
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Would make for an interesting scene when Driver breaks his record next year.Originally posted by Patler View PostNot a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.I can't run no more
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While the killers in high places
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But how instrumental was Jimmy Robinson in developing the current guys? Sure, TT has a knack for finding WR talent in the draft, but Robinson has had talent for coaching it up and making something out of it. With Driver nearing the end, to get another WR to become that consistent, a coach of Robinson's caliber is necessary.Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View PostYeah, bottom line is he left for more money, and honestly he can't really do much more with the core of recievers we have. They can't really get any worse, so maybe someone can make them better. No big loss really.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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He has been broadcasting for Westwood One and is very good. He is on Dan Patrick's radio show frequently and was very high on the team and Rodgers over the last two years. If he is harboring any hard feelings, it wasn't clear during his interviews.Originally posted by Patler View PostNot a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I don't think he has any hard feelings. I just thought it might not be comfortable for him to come back other than as a visitor, which he has done. On the other hand, maybe coming full circle would appeal to him. Hard to tell.Originally posted by pbmax View PostHe has been broadcasting for Westwood One and is very good. He is on Dan Patrick's radio show frequently and was very high on the team and Rodgers over the last two years. If he is harboring any hard feelings, it wasn't clear during his interviews.
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As another candidate, the guy Robinson is replacing, Ray Sherman, was wildly popular with the players in Green Bay when he was with the Packers. Articles in Dallas indicate the players there are not at all happy that Garrett didn't renew Sherman's contract.
But Sherman left the Packers after his son died of a self-inflicted gun shot, and the Sherman's went to court to get the cause ruling changed from suicide to undetermined and finally to accidental. Green Bay might have too many bad memories for them.
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So what was the story as to why the last year or two were so difficult between Lofton and the Packers? I lived on the east coast at that time and don't recall what went down.
I do know that the guy was just a super wide receiver. Fluid, smooth, fast, good hands. Wow. When the Pack traded for John Jefferson from San Diego, I thought that'd put them over the top."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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In six words:Originally posted by Fritz View PostSo what was the story as to why the last year or two were so difficult between Lofton and the Packers? I lived on the east coast at that time and don't recall what went down.
I do know that the guy was just a super wide receiver. Fluid, smooth, fast, good hands. Wow. When the Pack traded for John Jefferson from San Diego, I thought that'd put them over the top.
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You forgot booing crowd and middle finger response, captured for the front page of the paper. Lofton had a rocky road there for a while, but seems to have gotten his act together. He is pretty talented at his craft providing color commentary, and may not want to get back to coaching. Who Knows? In any case, there are other, younger, Jimmy Robinson types out there chomping at the bit for a job. McCarthy should have the pick of the litter. That's what happens when you win Superbowls.Originally posted by Patler View PostIn six words:
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