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  • #16
    Disagree. Jones' troubles are not when he's facing the ball and it comes into his body or when he catches the ball with his hands and thumbs in. His troubles have been on go routes and/or when he's catching the ball over the shoulder with his thumbs out. Whenever possible, he should get his thumbs together and snatch the ball like you say, but that's often much more difficult to turn on the fly or impossible to reach the ball in that fashion on over-the-shoulder throws downfield which has been Jones' problem catch. Unfortunately those are the home-run balls too.
    Last edited by vince; 02-12-2011, 05:51 PM.

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    • #17
      For all we know the only reason Jones drops passes is because hes not getting enough opportunities to catch more of them. Hard to get in a rhythm when the ball is spread around so much. I'm not saying that is the reason but it could be. Its just concentration with him. I think we shouldn't overblow it though. Guys like Dwayne Bowe and Braylon Edwards also drop a ton of passes, but they are still game changing WR's. According to football outsiders this year Jones had a 57% catch rate. Brandon Lloyd was at 50%. Miles Austin 58%. Brandon Marshall 59%. Just saying, it seems like a lot of drops but its not as many as some let on. If anything, Jordy Nelsons 70% this year sets a ridiculously high bar and he dropped a bunch in Dallas.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Lurker64 View Post
        Answer: It's not the same position. He was a Wide Receivers Coach, and now he's a Wide Receivers/Assistant Head Coach... and what comes with that is a large pay hike.
        Yeah, bottom line is he left for more money, and honestly he can't really do much more with the core of recievers we have. They can't really get any worse, so maybe someone can make them better. No big loss really.

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        • #19
          It is a nice promotion for Robinson. Honestly, I'm not sure we NEED Robinson at this point. We don't have a bunch of rookie WRs on the team...Driver, Jennings, Nelson, and Jones all know their business and Rodgers will start taking his leadership of the offense to another level now as well. Find a stopgap for a couple years...because I could eventually see Driver becoming an excellent WR coach.
          It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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          • #20
            Originally posted by channtheman View Post
            Why would a guy leave a Super Bowl winning team for the same position on a team in complete disarray? No really, is there an answer to this question?

            Not that I dislike this move. Our receivers never seemed to play to their full potential except for one game (Atlanta playoff game). We had drops drops and more drops all season long.
            Butt buddies?

            ....that or the pay increase
            The Bottom Line:
            Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Numb View Post
              Butt buddies?

              ....that or the pay increase
              Maybe he needs the challenge in starting from scratch. Some guys do.
              "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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              • #22
                Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                It is a nice promotion for Robinson. Honestly, I'm not sure we NEED Robinson at this point. We don't have a bunch of rookie WRs on the team...Driver, Jennings, Nelson, and Jones all know their business and Rodgers will start taking his leadership of the offense to another level now as well. Find a stopgap for a couple years...because I could eventually see Driver becoming an excellent WR coach.
                Not a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Patler View Post
                  Not a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.
                  Would make for an interesting scene when Driver breaks his record next year.
                  I can't run no more
                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
                  Say their prayers out loud
                  But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                  A thundercloud
                  They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by packerbacker1234 View Post
                    Yeah, bottom line is he left for more money, and honestly he can't really do much more with the core of recievers we have. They can't really get any worse, so maybe someone can make them better. No big loss really.
                    But how instrumental was Jimmy Robinson in developing the current guys? Sure, TT has a knack for finding WR talent in the draft, but Robinson has had talent for coaching it up and making something out of it. With Driver nearing the end, to get another WR to become that consistent, a coach of Robinson's caliber is necessary.
                    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Patler View Post
                      Not a stop-gap, but James Lofton is available as WR coach. He was quite highly regarded a few years ago, but after losing the HC jobs at Stanford and Oakland he has been out of coaching. Probably wouldn't be interested in returning to GB though. Not the best memories.
                      He has been broadcasting for Westwood One and is very good. He is on Dan Patrick's radio show frequently and was very high on the team and Rodgers over the last two years. If he is harboring any hard feelings, it wasn't clear during his interviews.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        He has been broadcasting for Westwood One and is very good. He is on Dan Patrick's radio show frequently and was very high on the team and Rodgers over the last two years. If he is harboring any hard feelings, it wasn't clear during his interviews.
                        I don't think he has any hard feelings. I just thought it might not be comfortable for him to come back other than as a visitor, which he has done. On the other hand, maybe coming full circle would appeal to him. Hard to tell.

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                        • #27
                          As another candidate, the guy Robinson is replacing, Ray Sherman, was wildly popular with the players in Green Bay when he was with the Packers. Articles in Dallas indicate the players there are not at all happy that Garrett didn't renew Sherman's contract.

                          But Sherman left the Packers after his son died of a self-inflicted gun shot, and the Sherman's went to court to get the cause ruling changed from suicide to undetermined and finally to accidental. Green Bay might have too many bad memories for them.

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                          • #28
                            So what was the story as to why the last year or two were so difficult between Lofton and the Packers? I lived on the east coast at that time and don't recall what went down.

                            I do know that the guy was just a super wide receiver. Fluid, smooth, fast, good hands. Wow. When the Pack traded for John Jefferson from San Diego, I thought that'd put them over the top.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              So what was the story as to why the last year or two were so difficult between Lofton and the Packers? I lived on the east coast at that time and don't recall what went down.

                              I do know that the guy was just a super wide receiver. Fluid, smooth, fast, good hands. Wow. When the Pack traded for John Jefferson from San Diego, I thought that'd put them over the top.
                              In six words:

                              Nightclub
                              Stairwell
                              Lady
                              Consensual?
                              Trial
                              Acquittal

                              Followed by the final word:

                              Trade
                              Last edited by Patler; 02-14-2011, 08:24 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                In six words:

                                Nightclub
                                Stairwell
                                Lady
                                Consensual?
                                Trial
                                Acquittal

                                Followed by the final word:

                                Trade
                                You forgot booing crowd and middle finger response, captured for the front page of the paper. Lofton had a rocky road there for a while, but seems to have gotten his act together. He is pretty talented at his craft providing color commentary, and may not want to get back to coaching. Who Knows? In any case, there are other, younger, Jimmy Robinson types out there chomping at the bit for a job. McCarthy should have the pick of the litter. That's what happens when you win Superbowls.

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