Packer Rats MOCK DRAFT

[swede]

Jordy did have a pretty good SB, didn't he? The really scary thing is that we--knock on Woody--would also have Ryan Grant and Jermichael Finley on our side!

And then there is the matter of that new rookie we are about to select.

[Lurker64]

Jordy did have a pretty good SB, didn't he? The really scary thing is that we--knock on Woody--would also have Ryan Grant and Jermichael Finley on our side!

And then there is the matter of that new rookie we are about to select.

Both Jordy and Finley would be terrible matchups for Harris. Harris's kryptonite would be bigger receivers, and his best matchups are against smaller guys. So potentially the Steelers just took him in order to keep him from being used against them since the Steelers don't exactly have a large crop of big men at WR.

[Lurker64]

So, time to talk about who the Packers may pick.

Some guys I like still on the board.

OLB: Both Brooks Reed and Jabal Sheard are good fits, and guys their calibre won't be available towards the end of the second. Martez Wilson is also an option here.
OL: I'm a big van of Villanova's Ben Ijalana, he doesn't have ideal length at 6'3 1/2" (36" arms are good to have though), but he's be an immediate fit at guard and can be a long term fixture at RT.

Those are the guys I'd be most keen on picking here with the way the board fell.

If they were after a 5-tech, the best available would probably be Ballard but I don't think it's a big enough need at this point, you can find guys later on as all the elite ones are off the board.
You can make an argument for Ingram, but I just don't think it would improve the team that much, so he's not "best player available" by that metric.
It's hard to really advocate taking a WR here, I like Torrey Smith but he's gone. Baldwin is a diva and an underachiever and he seems to be in the first round purely on the basis of his rare measurables and that scares me. You can make an argument for Titus Young, but he's smaller than we like and so I won't make that argument. Hankerson's hands aren't as good as I'd like.
If we really hate Scott Wells, I think Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski is an option here. He looks like a day 1 starter at center in the NFL.

Anybody else have anybody they love? Realistically, I'd go about shopping this pick hard to see if anybody wanted Ingram badly.

[swede]

So, time to talk about who the Packers may pick.

Some guys I like still on the board.

OLB: Both Brooks Reed and Jabal Sheard are good fits, and guys their calibre won't be available towards the end of the second. Martez Wilson is also an option here.
OL: I'm a big van of Villanova's Ben Ijalana, he doesn't have ideal length at 6'3 1/2" (36" arms are good to have though), but he's be an immediate fit at guard and can be a long term fixture at RT.

Those are the guys I'd be most keen on picking here with the way the board fell.

If they were after a 5-tech, the best available would probably be Ballard but I don't think it's a big enough need at this point, you can find guys later on as all the elite ones are off the board.
You can make an argument for Ingram, but I just don't think it would improve the team that much, so he's not "best player available" by that metric.
It's hard to really advocate taking a WR here, I like Torrey Smith but he's gone. Baldwin is a diva and an underachiever and he seems to be in the first round purely on the basis of his rare measurables and that scares me. You can make an argument for Titus Young, but he's smaller than we like and so I won't make that argument. Hankerson's hands aren't as good as I'd like.
If we really hate Scott Wells, I think Penn State's Stefen Wisniewski is an option here. He looks like a day 1 starter at center in the NFL.

Anybody else have anybody they love? Realistically, I'd go about shopping this pick hard to see if anybody wanted Ingram badly.

What about the Houston kid from Georgia? I remember a football guest on the Huffy Show (Pigskin Paul? A regular guest who writes a national blog and seems to know his way around NFL) talking about a linebacker from a southern school that the Packers would be fortunate to have drop to them. Reading about him I wonder if he is the same kid that Pigskin Paul was talking up.

[Bretsky]

I've said from the start I'd be a fan of Brooks Reed with our pick. He's bring a pass rusing force that will be needed opposite Clay Matthews and that will soften the probably loss of Cullen Jenkins.

I still think there is a very very low chance Mark Ingram falls all the way to pick 32. He's hands down the BPA here if you do not weight need into the equation.

I like Villanova's Ben Ijalana for OG; If GB really believes Buluga is our future LT as opposed to RT he's a very nice fit......but he might end up at OG. It would have been nicer to get a projected LT.

[Lurker64]

What about the Houston kid from Georgia? I remember a football guest on the Huffy Show (Pigskin Paul? A regular guest who writes a national blog and seems to know his way around NFL) talking about a linebacker from a southern school that the Packers would be fortunate to have drop to them. Reading about him I wonder if he is the same kid that Pigskin Paul was talking up.

Justin Houston? Who was picked #17 overall by New England?

[RashanGary]

Mark Ingram for me.

[gbpackfan]

1. Carolina Panters - packrulz - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson

2. Denver Broncos - packrulz* - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama

3. Buffalo Bills - Guiness - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU.

4. Cincinnati Bengals - TennesseePackerBacker - Blaine Gabbert.

5. Arizona Cardinals - PaCkFan_n_MD - VON MILLER

6. Cleveland Browns - Smidgeon - A. J. Green

7. San Francisco - mraynrand - Prince Amukamara, CB from Nebraska.

8. Tennesse Titans - PaCkFan_n_MD - NICK FAIRLEY, DT, Auburn

9. Dallas Cowboys - Spaulding - Robert Quinn DE/ OLB UNC

10. Washington Redskins - pbmax - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.

11. Houston Texans -gbpackfan - California DE Cameron Jordan.

12. Minnesota Vikings - Mission - Julio Jones

13. Detroit Lions - Gave - Anthony Castonzo

14. St. Louis Rams - Bretsky - Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri

15. Miami Dolphins - 3irty1 - DE, JJ Watt

16. Jacksonville Jaguars - JustinHarrell - Ryan Kerrigan

17. New England Patriots - SavedByGrace - Justin Houston

18. San Diego Chargers - SavedByGrace - Muhammed Wilkerson

19. New York Giants - Cheesehead Craig - OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA.

20. Tampa Bay Bucs - gbpackfan - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa.

21. Kansas City Chiefs - Lurker64 - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin

22. Indianapolis Colts - 3irty1* - Tyron Smith, OT, USC

23. Philadelphia Eagles - Bretsky* - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado

24. New Orleans Saints - packrulz - Cameron Heyward, DE, Ohio State

25. Seattle Seahawks - packrulz - Jake Locker, QB, Washington

26. Baltimore Ravens - mission* - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

27. Atlanta Falcons - Mazzin - Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland

28. New England Patroits - Swede - Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State

29. Chicago Bears - Swede - MIke Pouncey, OG, Florida

30. New York Jets - Packerpro42 - Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor

31. Pittsburgh Steelers - Swede - Brandon Harris, CB, Miami

32. World Champions, your GREEN BAY PACKERS! - Packer Rats poll

[swede]

Justin Houston? Who was picked #17 overall by New England?

You know, that might just be the kid: Houston...Georgia...didn't fall to #32...

[gbpackfan]

Finally done. Let's get a list going for the Packer poll

Mark Ingram RB
Brooks Reed LB
Jabal Sheard LB
Ben Ijalana OL
Corey Liuget DT
Stephen Paea DT
Mikel Leshoure RB
Kyle Rudolph TE
Leonard Hankerson WR
Jon Baldwin WR
Stefen Wisneski OG/OT

Please let me know who else should go on the list. And should we put a "trade down" option?

[Bretsky]

that is a pretty good list; if someobdy pitches adding another player IMO Rudolph is the guy to bump from that list. I'm not sure he has first round talent and IMO not much of a chance TT picks him over anybody on that list. Well, you might be able to dump Hankersonson as well as I've heard his stock is falling some. If we go WR it almost has to be Baldwin I'd think

[swede]

I've said from the start I'd be a fan of Brooks Reed with our pick. He's bring a pass rusing force that will be needed opposite Clay Matthews and that will soften the probably loss of Cullen Jenkins.

Me, too. I think that pick conforms somewhat to the world of TT also.

I still think there is a very very low chance Mark Ingram falls all the way to pick 32. He's hands down the BPA here if you do not weight need into the equation.

Do you think the Patriots will snap him up with their second pick in the first round if he gets that far? Who else might take him?

I like Villanova's Ben Ijalana for OG; If GB really believes Buluga is our future LT as opposed to RT he's a very nice fit......but he might end up at OG. It would have been nicer to get a projected LT.

Sherrod is the only one that might last. Would you take him, or wait for another prospect at tackle in later rounds?

[Bretsky]

Mark Ingram for me.

This would be a great TT value pick and while our system does not need a shining star at RB it sure would be nice to have IMO

[Bretsky]

Me, too. I think that pick conforms somewhat to the world of TT also.


Do you think the Patriots will snap him up with their second pick in the first round if he gets that far? Who else might take him?

Sherrod is the only one that might last. Would you take him, or wait for another prospect at tackle in later rounds?

I think there is a decent change Miami either grabs Ingram at 15, or trade down a few slots and pick him there. If he lasts til NE's last pick Hoody is way too smart IMO to let a talent like Ingram fall further.

My gut tells me you take Reed over Sherrod.....but in our PR draft lets say Ingram and Reed are gone, I think he'd be a very good pick if we are projecting Buluga at RT.

[Lurker64]

Finally done. Let's get a list going for the Packer poll

Mark Ingram RB
Brooks Reed LB
Jabal Sheard LB
Ben Ijalana OL
Corey Liuget DT
Stephen Paea DT
Mikel Leshoure RB
Kyle Rudolph TE
Leonard Hankerson WR
Jon Baldwin WR
Stefen Wisneski OG/OT

Please let me know who else should go on the list. And should we put a "trade down" option?

I would suggest Christian Ballard over Corey Liuget, as a better fit for our defense at 5-tech (since we don't need another nose with Raji, Pickett, and Green on the roster). Ballard at 6'5" with slightly longer arms seems like a better schematic fit. Paea might also be left off since he's a nose in this defense, and we don't need another one.

I would leave Rudolph out, since we have enough TEs. It's the one position (other than quarterback and specialist) I absolutely couldn't see Thompson taking in the first.

Titus Young as a WR is worthy of consideration as well, since he's a better character guy than Baldwin and he has better hands than Hankerson.

I think we should throw in another OL as well, say Danny Watkins of Baylor.

I still think there is a very very low chance Mark Ingram falls all the way to pick 32. He's hands down the BPA here if you do not weight need into the equation.

I've heard that the medical on Ingram's knee is giving a number of NFL teams pause. Since we aren't doctors and don't have access to his medical reports, it's impossible to speculate on where he'd land and who would or wouldn't pass on him. But it does give a plausible reason both for him to fall to #32 and for Thompson to pick somebody else.