James Jones Wants to Start

[gbgary]

he'll just have to beat out DD. if he can do that then more power to him.

[3irty1]

TT gets this done is my guess. He always takes care of his own and I bet it'll be surprisingly easy.

What is the most you'd pay him per year?

[RashanGary]

4.5M/Year would be good for Jones.

That's Nate Burleson, Antoine Randel El, Chris Chambers money.


Jones reminds me a lot of Joe Horn. I could see Jones blowing up if he gets a starting gig and being worth well above that deal. I don't see him flaming out and being worth less. That is a good deal for Jones.

[Patler]

You think you know me, but in fact, you know a cyber me. Skin, Nutz, Bretsky, Partial, Ziggy, Mad, OPF, GB Rulz, Pip, Harvey, Superfan and Ras have actually met me and will tell you I drink too much, but when sober and prepared, there's a remarkablely high chance that I won't stick my foot in my mouth.

So, my statement of regretting being ill prepared or not on my game because of a hangover stands alone. Further, when I am prepared, as Jones most certainly should have been given his status, I have never ever had to regret what I said to a reporter or into a mic.

I think I know you??? What the hell gave you that idea? I don't think that I know you at all. Nor do you know me. I know no one on this board and no one knows me. It is better that way.

However, I stand by my statement. You are the only individual that I have conversed with who is required to express themselves publicly, and will not admit to having done so poorly at one time or another. You are the only one who has not admitted to regretting how they expressed themselves at one time or another, regardless of how well prepared they have been. I don't need to know you to say that. I only need to read your claim, and recall the many, many others with whom I have dealt who readily admit to having prepared endlessly, yet still fumbled on occasion. You are the only one, and that is what makes me suspect.

But, to push this a bit further, assuming that you are perfect when prepared (don't take this personally, you are the one who has claimed this status), it is because that is what is expected of you. It's your "job" so to speak (play on phrase). It is not Jones' job to be a speaker. It's his job to be a football player. I don't expect him to be able to address the public as well as someone who does that as part of their job.

[Patler]

I think Jones came across better than I thought he would. He sounds like somebody who is unsure if the Packers will retain him, but would be happy to return. He also sounds like he wouldn't have an axe to grind if he went elsewhere. I was more impressed with his attitude than Cullen Jenkins--although I don't really begrudge Jenkins for feeling the way he feels either.

I was thinking the same thing. I don't necessarily blame Jenkins either, but some of his comments seem as if he doesn't want to return. Of course, Kampman apparently had no interest in returning either. He just said little to nothing about it.

I wonder if Kampman regrets not having accepted the position change more enthusiastically? I think he was better than Zombo. Hard to say about the others, they played so little.

[Iron Mike]

If any of you were in his shoes, what would you say?



Some how, I doubt it.

[RashanGary]

Hawk didn't sound very impressed earlier this year when he wasn't starting. I believe there were comments that he'd be happy to go somewhere where he would be able to start, either from him or his agent. I thought they were from him.

Nobody is happy when they aren't starting.

[Bossman641]

I didn't think Jones sounded bad in what he said at all. I'd love to keep him around but he's not a guy you can break the bank for, and I wouldn't blame him in the least if he wanted to test the waters elsewhere.

[Lurker64]

I think, honestly, I'd rather have Jordy as my #2 than Jones.

[Fritz]

"I know I've dropped certain touchdown passes in key playoff situations; nonetheless, I need to make as much money as I can because an NFL player's career is notoriously short. Thus, if Green Bay is willing to pay me like a starter, I will stay. If not, I will go. Dan Snyder is easier to bend over than the sheep on Jordy Nelson's farm."

[Bretsky]

I see Jones value in the 3.5-4.5 MIL per year range; other teams IMO will value him on the higher end of that or even higher.

If you want to start, then walk the walk Mr Jones. He needs to earn that

[Freak Out]

I think Jones will be back....and if he gets his shit together he"ll end up the #3 guy unless something happens to Nelson. But....DD could shock me and come back strong and beat these guys out again in training camp again.

[mission]

I see Jones value in the 3.5-4.5 MIL per year range; other teams IMO will value him on the higher end of that or even higher.

If you want to start, then walk the walk Mr Jones. He needs to earn that

Which is why I think we might have a chance at keeping him. Had you asked me midway through the season, I'd say there's no way he'd sign for 4m a year.

But he has a lot of stuff going against him. People will attribute much of his success to Aaron Rodgers, the system and being 1 WR out of 4-5. Two dropped playoff TD passes on national TV might have cost this guy 3-4m/yr on a loose open market.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I have been a big Jones supporter, esp. this past year. I probably want him to stay in Green Bay as much as anyone on this forum. But I disagree on his value. He is simply not worth 3-5 million a year at this point in his career. I want him to stay in Green Bay b/c think he can BECOME a great WR, but he has yet to prove he IS a great WR. All I see is a lot of potential yet to be fulfilled.

You can’t expect to be paid starters money dropping 10 passes with half of them being 80 yard TD's. If he would have dropped 5 passes instead of 10 he probably adds 250 yards and 3 TD's or so to his stats. He would have had a dam good season, but he didn’t.

I actually hated hearing him say "but Driver wants to play until he is 40." SO WHAT! That means nothing really. If JJ out plays Driver and Nelson he will be the starter and he shouldn't expect anything less than having to fight for it. If he can’t beat out a soon to be 37 year old WR, who in IMO has slowed down some, when he is in the prime of his career than he shouldn’t be a starter. A fair contract for him would be to sign a 2 year 4 mil dollar contract and earn the starting spot.

He has a sweet deal in Green Bay. He has a top 5 QB, top ten wr in Jennings, and a top 5 TE in Finely to take pressure off him. If he would just stop dropping passes and play more consistently he would have the easiest number 2 wr position in the whole league. He would be single covered almost every play.

I still want Jones to stay, but if he out prices himself then he just has to go. The team can’t be paying 5 mil a year to every player on the team. If you are going to be paid as one of the best you have to prove it and he has yet to do that for even ONE full year

[Little Whiskey]

"I know I've dropped certain touchdown passes in key playoff situations; nonetheless, I need to make as much money as I can because an NFL player's career is notoriously short. Thus, if Green Bay is willing to pay me like a starter, I will stay. If not, I will go. Dan Snyder is easier to bend over than the sheep on Jordy Nelson's farm."

this!