2011 PackerRats community mock second draft

[Tarlam!]

Sure, Smeef, and I wasn't critizing the pick. Just offering you my opinion. Time will tell.

[Smeefers]

Sure, Smeef, and I wasn't critizing the pick. Just offering you my opinion. Time will tell.

Oh, well in that case, I sort of just stuck my dick in the wind, saw which way it was blowing and jumped on that bandwagon like nobodies business. I think Cam has a chance to be something special, but it's not like the next 4 guys after him couldn't have great careers either.

[RashanGary]

Panthers - Marcell Dareus
Broncos - Nick Fairly
Bills - Cam Newton
Bengals
Cardinals
Browns

Remember, anyone can pick as long as you don't pick twice in the same day. Bengals up.

[Guiness]

The Broncos take Nick Fairley, DT

We didn't like the QB's enough to pull the trigger. AJ Green might be the best player in this draft, but DT's who can move like Fairley are even more rare than probowl receivers, so we went with the rare big guy. Fairley and Dummerville are a good start to Denver's new 4-3 front.

I didn't pick for Denver specifically because I would not have made this pick. I picked #3 in the first draft, so decided to let others go at the top. I think you're correct that Denver does not take a QB here, so it likely comes down to Fairley or Von Miller...with Peterson knocking on the door.

[Tarlam!]

Oh, well in that case, I sort of just stuck my dick in the wind, saw which way it was blowing and jumped on that bandwagon like nobodies business. I think Cam has a chance to be something special, but it's not like the next 4 guys after him couldn't have great careers either.

You might find this interesting:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-draft/09000d5d81f24692/Gabbert-vs-past-first-round-QBs

I just found it....

[RashanGary]

Yeah Guiness,

Miller/Green/Fairley were my choices

Crossed miller off because you wouldn't get much bang for teh buck with a pass rusher playing as a 4-3 LB.

Crossed Green off because he was a WR. I think he's a safe bet to be a star though.


I haven't researched the top of the draft as much, but I just looked at Petersons production/athetlic ability. Yeah, he should have been considered too.

I'm happy with Fairley though. He gets nit picked, but he's been and is a star at a tough to fill position.

[Guiness]

Cam Newton as #1 overall:
Dan Marino and Vince Young both scored 16 on the test, though Vince Young scored a 6 on his first attempt. Michael Vick scored a 20. My choice wasn't really random. Cam Newton is considered the best quarterback in the draft at the moment and there's more than one place that has him going 1 overall. I found one website out of the first six that had Blaine ahead of Cam. I'm sure there are other mock drafts out there that are pro Blaine, these are just the first six that came up in the search.

Blaine Gabbert as first QB picked:

http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2011/...nfl-mock-draft

While you're right that Newton's got a lot more votes for #1 overall, I've seen enough with Blaine to think there's more to it than just people trying to be contrary.

http://sportsnewssouthwest.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=174:nfl-mock-draft-2011--national-football-leagues-future&catid=12:pro&Itemid=7

http://www.patsdraft.com/Draft_11.html

http://nflsoup.com/?p=9501

http://commshowbombshow.com/2011nflmockdraft.aspx

Of course, there was no shortage of ppl taking Leaf over Manning oh so long ago.

[Guiness]

Ok, I'll jump in for the Bengals here. Back before I understood much about football, and having no real hometown team, they were my favorite. Loved Tim Krumrie, and remember him busting his leg in the SB.

As I started paying more attention, however, I realized what a bunch of morons the Bengals had for ownership and management. A trip to Wi and I found the team I love!

Cinncinati has a good combination of need and BPA here. There are a lot of very good, highly rated players on the board. They should take AJ Green for the best combination. Johnson is nearing the end and pretty much lost his #1 WR status to a 37 yr old Owens, who won't be back next season.

If not, they should consider Miller (who shouldn't be on the board here) Peterson or Quinn. Quinn has his problems, but that won't scare this team.

So what do they do? Knee-jerk pick to Carson Palmer's words, and Pick Blaine Gabbert!!!!! He'll start week 1, get pummeled behind Andre Smith as they press him into duty as well, and end up with a similar career as David Carr.

edit: for what it's worth, I don't think either of the QB's are top 10 material as far as BPA, but some always go there because teams at the top invariably need them, and want to try for a home run swing. How else do you explain Akili Smith?

[Lurker64]

So...

Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn.
Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.
Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri.

The Cardinals are on the clock.

[Guiness]

Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
Lurker

You could potentially argue that this is a need pick, as the single best defensive tackle for the Panthers last year was no-name and current free-agent Derek Landri, but Dareus's ability to dominate at the line of scrimmage, his intangibles, and his schematic versatility make him worthy of the pick. A quarterback was considered here, but Jimmy Clausen deserves another chance and if he fails in his opportunity the Panthers will be in a good position to select form a much better crop of quarterbacks in 2012. Big men who can dominate at positions that require big men are simply harder to find than smaller men who can dominate at positions that small men play.

Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
JustinHarrell

We didn't like the QB's enough to pull the trigger. AJ Green might be the best player in this draft, but DT's who can move like Fairley are even more rare than probowl receivers, so we went with the rare big guy. Fairley and Dummerville are a good start to Denver's new 4-3 front.


Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.
Smeefers
There's no way the bills pass on the potential that Cam Newton has. His pressence opens up the playbook to a whole other set of posibilities and it insures they have a play maker touching the ball on every snap. They took a good long look at Blaine Gabbert but decided to go with the Auborn Boy.

Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri.
Guiness

So what do they do? Knee-jerk pick to Carson Palmer's words, and Pick Blaine Gabbert!!!!! He'll start week 1, get pummeled behind Andre Smith as they press him into duty as well, and end up with a similar career as David Carr.

[Deputy Nutz]

I will pick for the Cardinals.

[Deputy Nutz]

The Arizona Cardinals with the 5th pick select Linebacker: Von Miller, Texas A&M. Dynamic defender that can rush the passer and play in coverage. Is a great fit for the Cardinals 3-4 scheme that should take advantage of his speed and knack for getting after the passer. He has the size at 6-3 and 245 pounds to lineup on the outside, but he also shows the speed of the edge that will be a potential nightmare for offensive tackles to deal with. His athletic ability does allow him to cover the flat and get down field covering tight ends, he will be a dual threat as an outside linebacker in a 3-4.

Does need to stand up against the run a bit better but with larger defensive linemen in front of him at the pro level his ability to get to the ball carrier will most likely be enhanced.

[Freak Out]

I'll take the Browns.

[Freak Out]

With the sixth pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns take WR Julio Jones. From National Football Post:

A massive physical specimen who really seems to intimidate opposing cornerbacks off the line. Does a nice job using his power and length to fight his way through any kind of press, quickly shrugging off opposing defenders, dropping his shoulder and accelerating into his routes. However, what stands out most about his game is the balance he displays as a route runner and his ability to accelerate so quickly once he gets the ball into his hands. Possesses a real polish to his game as an underneath route runner and does a nice job setting up corners, cleanly getting out of his breaks and working after the catch. The most polished receiver in the three-step passing game in the entire draft does a great job changing speeds to set up his routes and being sharp/sudden out of his breaks.

Exhibits a good feel for reading zone coverages and knows where to sit down underneath. Plus, he gets up to speed quickly when asked to get down the field, does a nice job fighting his way through coverage and tracking the football vertically. Extends his long arms and makes a play on the football in jump ball situations, and I love the grit and power he displays as a blocker in the run game. Is physical into contact, has a passion for blocking down the field and adds a nice element to the run game as well.

Seemed to thin out a bit this past season, which allowed him to generate more separation for himself in the intermediate pass game and more of a burst out of his breaks. However, still has too many lapses in concentration and puts the ball on the ground too often — especially over the middle of the field. Lacks elite top-end speed down the field and won't be able to simply outpace defenders at the next level. However, because of his size, power and acceleration, he's still a threat to make plays vertically and win for you in jump ball situations.

Impression: He really does accelerate extremely well for a guy his size with the feel to consistently set up defenders as a route runner and find soft spots in coverage. Projects as a potential blue-chip caliber No. 1 wideout at the next level, but needs to do a better job holding onto the football.

[gabe]

BTW NFL.com Pat Kirwans new 2 round mock draft, has us taking Mark Ingram at 32 and Brooks Reed at 64 how awesome would that be?