2011 PackerRats community mock second draft

[Guiness]

dp

[Tarlam!]

I'd put James Carpenter in there too. He's more of a tackle than Ijalana and Watkins. He was a rock at Alabama. He's a slightly more powerful athlete than Bulaga, with slightly less agility (but close in all areas).

He's no longer flying under the radar. I've seen him more and more in some draftniks blog. It seems your not alone with your assessment.

[Guiness]

Here's my list

Watkins,
Martez Wilson
Kyle Rudolph
Clayborn
Jimmy Smith
Ijalana
Paea (strong as an ox. Can he play NT?)

And a player I haven't seen mentioned
Allen Bailey

So I end up with 2OL, 3DL, and LB, CB and TE. Not that I think it matters, because at this pick, it should be about value, not need. Which is why I don't like the pick I think is going to win out, Brooks Reed.

With honourable mention to Bradon Harris and Jake Locker who I think will be first rounders, but there's no chance of us taking.


I don't know what to make of Austin. Not sure what he did to get in so much trouble, or why it's looked upon so badly. Robert Quinn was suspended for a year, but goes top ten? However, the comments about him being a 'finger pointing, excuse making con-artist' are damaging - I'll take a guy with a weed and/or alcohol arrest over that any day!

[RashanGary]

Last year, there were two guys predicted to go late first to early 2nd that I thought were highly underrated. Tyson Alualu and Ryan Matthews. They went 10 and 12 respectively, higher than any mock draft had them going.

This year, Ras-I Dowling and James Carpenter are two guys I think are worthy of higher picks than the media has projected. Both are mid-late 2nd round picks. I could see both sliding into the first round, with Carpenter to us even. Dowling would have to go to a confident GM. With his SR season ruined, it's going to take a very sure-of-himself GM to pull the trigger, but he has a ton of talent and production.

I'm more sure of Carpenter than Dowling, but I like both, possibly to us even.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I think you have to take out Clayborn and Marvin Austin. Neither really fit our scheme. The one time BPA backfires is if you're trying to plug a square peg in a round hole.

I actually like Clayborn a lot too, Erb's palsy or not. He has flat out dominated at times. His Jr. year was his most impressive. Had he not stayed in school for his senior year he might have well been picked top 15 that year. That seemed to be the rumour anyway.

I believe someone is going to get a hell of a talent in Clayborn. Clayborn not only has the talent, he was also a leader for that Iowa team. Austin? I'm not so sure. The talent is there, but the character is lacking.

[Bretsky]

I'm surprised more are not excited about Reed; I wasn't one of them but a lot of posters voted for him in the last Mock Draft

Can Wilson play OLB as well ? If he can he's a classid TT pick and it spells the end of Barnett.

[Bretsky]

Lots of campaigning for many different players . if nobody falls into our lap a trade down may be the best option.

Then again, if I watch four to five hours of round one Thursday a part of me will be a bit disappointed in GB trades out of round one and doesn't even pick. Actually that would be classic.

Cheers,
B

[Smidgeon]

Lots of campaigning for many different players . if nobody falls into our lap a trade down may be the best option.

Then again, if I watch four to five hours of round one Thursday a part of me will be a bit disappointed in GB trades out of round one and doesn't even pick. Actually that would be classic.

Cheers,
B

(See Nelson, Jordy)

[Bretsky]

(See Nelson, Jordy)

Yes but remember that was when round one and two were same day; I remember Red and I were howling from Brandon Flowers as they made the Jordy pick, which turned out ok

This year we could watch the whole draft, trade out, and have to wait til the next afternoon waiting for our first pick

[Lurker64]

Linking to Bracket threads:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?22000-Draftstravaganza-Bracket-1A-%28-1%29-Reed-vs.-%28-8%29-LeShoure

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?22001-Draftstravaganza-Bracker-%281B%29-%28-2%29-Ijalana-vs.-%28-6%29-Wilson

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?22002-Draftstravaganza-Bracket-1C-%28-3%29-Clayborn-vs.-%28-5%29-Watkins

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php?22003-Draftstravaganza-Bracket-1D-%28-4%29-Hankerson-vs.-%28-5%29-Rudolph

Jimmy Smith and Marvin Austin are arbitrarily rejected for character. Hankerson edges out other WR prospects because he fits a profile that TT likes drafting better than others (big, good hands). Wilson edges out Mason Foster because of his pass rush ability and Sheard because of his ability to play in space, more complete OLB prospect than either of the two (most complete of any OLB available IMO). Rudolph and LeShoure are value picks.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Sheard would be the one I'd like to see the most. Any of the interior big men wouldn't be bad as well. I'm higher on Watkins than most.

[Bretsky]

getlouder

You keep mentioning this is a weak draft
I think this is spot on

Everybody has been hyping the OL prospects of this year. Charlie Casserly just compared his ratings from this year's OL prospects to last years. When he lined them up....last yrs best vs this yrs best as prospects...and so on...........every OT from last year was rated higher.

This is a draft with a lot of good players but not as many elite ones IMO. A nice year to pile up picks in rounds two to four with trade downs IMO

[Lurker64]

You can't get complacent just because you think the draft is weak though. 2008 was reportedly a weak draft, but you still had Jamaal Charles and Jermichael Finley as 3rd round picks.

[Bretsky]

Hey, I'm more fired up for this draft than I've been for the past three years !

Part of this is because the past two years have been insance for me on the job and this year I'm kind of slow so I have time to read up and pay attention a lot more.

[packrulz]

I'm surprised more are not excited about Reed; I wasn't one of them but a lot of posters voted for him in the last Mock Draft

Can Wilson play OLB as well ? If he can he's a classid TT pick and it spells the end of Barnett.

I like Reed, but he's no Clay Matthews, most of the mocks have him going in the 2nd round, a few have him going to the Packers in round 2. Besides, they have Jones, Walden, and Zombo, who are pretty good, they did win the Super Bowl. I guess I'm more concerned about depth on the offensive and defensive line, and wide receiver, Driver is getting old. From what I've read, Wilson can also play OLB, and TT likes versatile players.