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  • The Patriots select Jonathan Baldwin WR, Pittsburgh.

    Other considerations here would likely be at OT, OLB, and DE. With RB Leshore being a darkhorse candidate.
    "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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    • didn't see that one coming

      Da Bears pick is interesting; their OL is absolutely terrible and there are two to three legit candidates on the OL there for the pickings along with a 26yr old OG that might be more ready to play today then either of them
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • only 3 picks before the Pack !!!!!!!!!!! Keep er going
        Last edited by Bretsky; 04-17-2011, 08:01 PM.
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • Panthers: Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
          Lurker

          You could potentially argue that this is a need pick, as the single best defensive tackle for the Panthers last year was no-name and current free-agent Derek Landri, but Dareus's ability to dominate at the line of scrimmage, his intangibles, and his schematic versatility make him worthy of the pick. A quarterback was considered here, but Jimmy Clausen deserves another chance and if he fails in his opportunity the Panthers will be in a good position to select form a much better crop of quarterbacks in 2012. Big men who can dominate at positions that require big men are simply harder to find than smaller men who can dominate at positions that small men play.

          Broncos: Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
          JustinHarrell


          We didn't like the QB's enough to pull the trigger. AJ Green might be the best player in this draft, but DT's who can move like Fairley are even more rare than probowl receivers, so we went with the rare big guy. Fairley and Dummerville are a good start to Denver's new 4-3 front.


          Bills: Cam Newton, QB, Auburn.
          Smeefers
          There's no way the bills pass on the potential that Cam Newton has. His pressence opens up the playbook to a whole other set of posibilities and it insures they have a play maker touching the ball on every snap. They took a good long look at Blaine Gabbert but decided to go with the Auborn Boy.

          Bengals: Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri.
          Guiness


          So what do they do? Knee-jerk pick to Carson Palmer's words, and Pick Blaine Gabbert!!!!! He'll start week 1, get pummeled behind Andre Smith as they press him into duty as well, and end up with a similar career as David Carr.

          Cardinals: Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
          Deputy Nutz

          The Arizona Cardinals with the 5th pick select Linebacker: Von Miller, Texas A&M. Dynamic defender that can rush the passer and play in coverage. Is a great fit for the Cardinals 3-4 scheme that should take advantage of his speed and knack for getting after the passer. He has the size at 6-3 and 245 pounds to lineup on the outside, but he also shows the speed of the edge that will be a potential nightmare for offensive tackles to deal with. His athletic ability does allow him to cover the flat and get down field covering tight ends, he will be a dual threat as an outside linebacker in a 3-4.

          Browns: Julio Jones, WR,
          Freakout

          With the sixth pick in the 2011 NFL draft the Cleveland Browns take WR Julio Jones. A massive physical specimen who really seems to intimidate opposing cornerbacks off the line.

          49ers: Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
          3irty1

          SF has their option here of the two best players in the draft: Patrick Peterson and AJ Green. Peterson makes the most sense so they would go with him.

          Tennesse Titans: JJ Watt, DE, Wisconsin.
          Smeefers

          The Titans were disappointed that Darius AND Fairly went 1-2. Even though they have a glareing need at quarterback, the top two in the draft are already gone and the left overs aren't worthy of this high a pick. That leaves Robert Quinn (LB) and JJ. Watt (DE) as their highest ranked players. They could reach for Bowers, but that questionable knee is to much of a chance for a top ten pick.

          Dallas Cowboys: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina:
          Packrulz

          The most explosive pass rusher in the draft, Quinn is capable of becoming a star off the edge for either a 4-3 or 3-4 team. That kind of versatility could equate to a top-seven pick.

          Redskins: AJ Green, WR, Georgia
          JustinHarren

          Redskins rush to their card to the commish and select AJ Green, WR, Georgia. Big, Fast, runs great routes and has great hands, Green has every skill needed to be an excellent pro.

          Texans: Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
          Lurker64
          The Texans run to the podium to turn in the card for Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska.

          Vikings: DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue
          TenneseePackerBacker
          The Vikings could go a number of different ways with this pick. Quarterback is the most glaring need, but unless they fall in love with Jake Locker, it just isn't going to happen. Offensive Tackle could also be the pick here with Minnesota having their pick of big men in this spot. One player stands head and shoulders above the rest right now IMO, and also fills a huge need for the Queens.

          The Vikings select DE Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue

          Lions: Tyron Smith, OT, USC
          Get Louder at Lambeau

          The Lions really need to keep Matthew Stafford healthy, and they are lucky enough to get their pick of offensive linemen in this draft.

          St. Louis Rams select Aldon Smith, DE/LB, Missouri
          PackerPro42

          Dolphins: Mark Ingram, RB Alabama University
          Deputy Nutz
          Neither Ricky Williams or Ronnie Brown are signed for the 2011 season and Brown won't come cheap, Williams is at the end of his career and has a better shot at being resigned in a similar role. So with the 15th pick the Dolphins select Mark Ingram, RB Alabama University. Good all around back, can catch the bal out of the backfield and has size to be an every down back.


          The Jaguars: DeQuan Bowers
          Bretsky

          The Jaguars select DeQuan Bowers and would formally like to thank the Titans, Cowboys, Vikings, and Rams for taking lesser defensive players due to the leaks coming out about the knee that were being created by the mad genius Hoody who is hoping to select him at pick 17.

          The Patriots select Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal.
          Lurker64

          The Patriots have been searching, unsuccessfully for a 5-tech opposite of Ty Warren since trading Richard Seymour away and being bludgeoned by the hated Jets on the ground in the playoffs last year just underscores this need. Jordan's senior bowl campaign suggests that he has the ability to be absolutely dominant against NFL Tackles if he receives good coaching and in New England he will.

          San Diego Chargers: Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple*
          Bretsky

          Wilkerson is certainly one of the great talents of the draft who is receiving almost no media attention. He's a huge guy that a lot of 3-4 teams will look at to play DE but his versatility in a 4-3 could be something very special as well

          Giants take T Anthony Castanzo, Boston College
          Cheesehead Craig

          The G-Men need help on the OL as they have far too many question marks there and cannot have the strategy to hope those guys improve. He's the top T on the board and will help keep the whining pussy Eli Manning upright and continue to show why he's overrated.

          Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Justin Houston DE Georgia.
          Fred's Slacks

          I'll admit, I haven't followed nearly as close this year as normal, but I think this is a decent fit for the Buc

          Kansas City Chiefs: Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
          Bretsky

          Scott Pioli needs his Vince Wilfork. The Chiefs struggled against the run late in the year because they had nothing at the nose tackle position. Phil Taylor would remedy that issue.

          The Indianapolis Colts select Nate Solder, OT, Colorado.
          Lurker64
          Bill Polian admitted that he made a mistake last year in drafting Jerry Hughes over Roger Saffold, as the Colts inability to block for Peyton Manning has been one of their major weaknesses these last few years. Solder has the tools to be an amazing prospect on the left side, as he has the feet of a linebacker and "footwork" is ultimately what separates the great OTs from the mediocre ones. He lacks ideal NFL strength, but the Colts hardly need pancake blocks from their bookends as Peyton Manning's precison passing attack is ultimately what drives the offense.


          Eagles select Mike Pouncey, G, Florida.
          Guiness

          You have to think after the way we beat the Eagles this year, they're looking for secondary help. But I don't know if there's anyone worth taking here.

          However, they also have a pressing need on the OL. More at tackle, but Pouncey still on the board is too much to pass up.

          New Orleans Akeem Ayers*, OLB, UCLA
          Tarlam!

          On tape, he's a natural edge pass rusher. He didn't perform well at the combine; ran in the 4.9 range in the 40. There are also questions about whether he can handle a complicated defense, both with his hand down or standing up. But he is a great athlete and a natural 3-4 outside linebacker.

          Seahawks :Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois:
          Packrulz

          He has an explosive burst, good flexibility and the upper-body strength to compete immediately. Liuget is a classic three-technique defensive tackle who is earning grades closer to Dareus and Fairley from some teams than many realize.

          Baltimore Ravens:Cameron Heyward, DE/DT, Ohio State
          Bresky

          Brian Baldinger recently said on "Path to the Draft" he knows for a fact if this dude slips to the Ravens they are taking him.

          Falcons draft Gabe Carimi, OT, Badger
          JustinHarrell


          The Patriots select Jonathan Baldwin WR, Pittsburgh.
          TenneseePackerBacker

          Other considerations here would likely be at OT, OLB, and DE. With RB Leshore being a darkhorse candidate.
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          Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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          • Well, Swede had Pouncey going to Da Bears here in the first mock and after all the sacks Cutler suffered last season, you know these guys are going OL.

            Based on our justin Harrell's infatuation, the Bears, with the 29th pick, might have selected:

            James Carpenter (OL)
            Height:6'4"
            Weight:321 lbs.
            Arm Length:34 in.
            Hand Size:9 3/4 in.
            College:Alabama
            Conference:SEC

            OVERVIEW
            Carpenter has a chance to end up as a starter and certainly has the ability to provide valuable depth as a backup. Looks the part of an NFL left tackle with his great size and frame. At this stage, Carpenter grades out as a good pass blocker but just adequate in the running game. His game could benefit from some improved awareness in blitz pickup. Would become more valuable as a run blocker with increased strength and power. Carpenter should hear his name called during the middle rounds of the 2011 NFL Draft.

            Instead, the pick:

            Derek Sherrod (OL)
            Height:6'5"
            Weight:321 lbs.
            Arm Length:35 3/8 in.
            Hand Size:11 in.
            College:Mississippi St.
            Conference:SEC


            OVERVIEW
            Sherrod currently looks more like a backup but could be a future starting tackle if he can add quite a bit of bulk and strength. A nice blend of length and good feet, he can slide laterally with pass rushers and push them by the launch point but struggles to anchor against the bull rush. Could benefit from improving awareness against pressure looks. Uses positioning and instincts as a run blocker to create running lanes but isn't an effective drive blocker and won't push defenders backwards. Has a solid makeup but doesn't possess a non-stop motor or great aggressiveness. Early Day 3 grade.

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            • oops, Tarlam already picked.
              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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              • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                oops, Tarlam already picked.
                Whom would you have taken?

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                • Same guy. Seems like a good fit for the Bears. I wanted to take Ryan Mallet or something like that cuz it was the Bears, but I would have taken Sherrod too.
                  Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                  • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                    Same guy. Seems like a good fit for the Bears. I wanted to take Ryan Mallet or something like that cuz it was the Bears, but I would have taken Sherrod too.
                    Yup, I think da Bears would take Sherrod (who would probably be a good pick for the Packers are well) or the dude Lurker loves
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Jets take Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland. Extremely talented pass catcher. Good hands, great speed, elite agility and run after catch ability. Not quite as natural as Greg Jennings, but an extremely hard worker and has every tool including blazing speed.


                      Steelers on the Clock
                      Packers on deck
                      Last edited by RashanGary; 04-18-2011, 08:59 AM.
                      Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                      • The Steelers got shredded in the air by the Packers during the super bowl and they were exposed. Even though they could use some OT help, Aaron Williams from Texas is still available, and so they get their BPA and a need. Really a no brainer for them. Of course, I could have missed someone who's still left on the board that blows him out of the water. If that's the case, well, screw you guys. I'm still going with Aaron Williams.

                        #31, The Steelers take Aaron Williams, CB Texas
                        - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                        • Adrian Clayborn is interesting for us. 280 lb DE is not ideal, but it's close enough. He'd really help fill the possible void left by Cullen Jenkins.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • Originally posted by Smeefers View Post
                            The Steelers got shredded in the air by the Packers during the super bowl and they were exposed. Even though they could use some OT help, Aaron Williams from Texas is still available, and so they get their BPA and a need. Really a no brainer for them. Of course, I could have missed someone who's still left on the board that blows him out of the water. If that's the case, well, screw you guys. I'm still going with Aaron Williams.

                            #31, The Steelers take Aaron Williams, CB Texas
                            Why Williams over CB's Jimmy Smith and Brandon Harris? Just curious really. Smith's liability is character issues, but he is the most physically gifted of the three second-tier corners.
                            "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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                            • Hook em horns!

                              (coughcough)

                              I mean, the Steelers don't really like dealing with character issues at all. The second Holmes started acting up, they got rid of him. They'd of done the same to Big Ben if he wasn't a top 10 QB in the league. And honestly, I figure it's a wash between Harris and Williams. I could of gone either way really. I just like Williams better.
                              - Once again, adding absolutely nothing to the conversation.

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                              • Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker View Post
                                Why Williams over CB's Jimmy Smith and Brandon Harris? Just curious really. Smith's liability is character issues, but he is the most physically gifted of the three second-tier corners.
                                I actually like Ras-I Dowling. He out performed Chris Cook for two years, then had the injuries destroy his SR season. He's very much in the mold of Antonio Cromartie and not just because he's an elite lengthy-type athlete. He's also a great player. I could see him slipping into round 1. He has the skills and production of many 1st round corners in years past. He's a leader type, good guy. Injury concern aside, I think he's a 1st round guy.
                                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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